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Has anyone tried AirPods Pro as hearing aides? I remember Apple talking big game about getting them certified or something

I dropped my Oticon Opn1 for Airpods Pro. I have moderate to severe hearing loss on one ear and struggle with conversations in noisy environments.

The Airpods are perfect for lowering the background noise and elevating the speech.

And since I use them anyway for music and podcasts, I don't have to remove my aid to listen to music and vice versa.

Re: Ask HN: Hearing aid wearers, what's hot?

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With so many hearing aid users around, this may be the perfect time for me to ask what it is like to wear one, and how it improves dayly life.

I have some hearing loss (suppose moderate) only in my left ear. As this is only on single one I think I am coping enough with the right for now. With regular "ha , sorry, what?" moments.

In your experience should I be investing in one immediately or trying my best with current coping situation for now?

Re: Ask HN: Hearing aid wearers, what's hot?

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I’ll chime in with a sidebar: Anyone got any experience using hearing aids for the "hearing in noise" issue (aka. King-Kopetzky syndrome or lack of cocktail party effect [0], part of a whole bunch of things also called adhd for ears). Essentially I have filtering issues, as soon as multiple people talk, I can’t really understand anyone anymore, unless they very directly speak into my ears so they are significantly lo…

Hearing in noise is both what most people want from hearing aids and what they are least equipped to provide. The traditional solution is an FM system where you give the person speaking a microphone linked to your hearing aids. There are dedicated ones like Phonak Roger. You could probably also use your phone as a microphone if it's bluetooth connected to your headphones or hearing aids.

Least equipped to provide? They've been working on machine learning algos for exactly this purpose for twenty years.

Re: Ask HN: Hearing aid wearers, what's hot?

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There's something I think must be possible and wonder if it would be useful: using noise cancelling earphones to mimic someone else's hearing loss. The idea is if you live with someone with hearing loss, you could enter the frequencies they can't hear, and cancel only those. Then you could spend a day with these in to try to get a more direct understanding of which noises they can hear and which they can't.

Whilst I have no idea how well this would work, I would definitely appreciate something like this. Rather than noise cancelling headphones, I’d be happy with an audio recording that has my loss applied to it. Anything to demonstrate what it’s like would help awareness and understanding.

Email your audiologist and ask for your audiogram. Should be straightforward to apply an equalizer to match it, esp if can find an equalizer with db(a? m?) labels

Re: Ask HN: Hearing aid wearers, what's hot?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Airpods might be totally applicable here: >When your AirPods Pro are connected to your device, you can use Conversation Boost to focus on the person talking in front of you. This makes it easier to hear in a face-to-face conversation. https://support.apple.com/guide/airpods/use-and-customize-tr... librepods appears to support this feature

Ohh, that is interesting. I’ll research this, thank you. Hah, this made me find the subreddit /r/AudiProcDisorder where people discuss those and others for exactly that reason. edit: Damn, tool requires root because of a bug :/

On Linux it works out of the box as I understood. So maybe time for a linux phone? ^^

Re: Ask HN: Hearing aid wearers, what's hot?

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The newest HAs have AI that helps in noisy environments. The ones I have are the Phonak Audéo Sphere Infinio I90s. I've worn HAs for 40 years. It's truly unbelievable in noisy environments. I know it's easy to think it's all marketing garbage, but some great demos on YT of the technology. I keep them in AI mode all the time when I have them on, and charging them for an hour at lunch is enough to get me the necessary runtime.

Re: Ask HN: Hearing aid wearers, what's hot?

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I’ll chime in with a sidebar: Anyone got any experience using hearing aids for the "hearing in noise" issue (aka. King-Kopetzky syndrome or lack of cocktail party effect [0], part of a whole bunch of things also called adhd for ears). Essentially I have filtering issues, as soon as multiple people talk, I can’t really understand anyone anymore, unless they very directly speak into my ears so they are significantly lo…

I posted this standalone, but replying to you since you specifically asked about HAs in noisy environments.

The newest HAs have AI that helps in noisy environments. The ones I have are the Phonak Audéo Sphere Infinio I90s. I've worn HAs for 40 years. It's truly unbelievable in noisy environments. I know it's easy to think it's all marketing garbage, but some great demos on YT of the technology. I keep them in AI mode all the time when I have them on, and charging them for an hour at lunch is enough to get me the necessary runtime.

Re: Ask HN: Hearing aid wearers, what's hot?

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post #71

Has anyone tried AirPods Pro as hearing aides? I remember Apple talking big game about getting them certified or something

I have worn HAs for 40 years and will give my take. HAs are better, especially the new ones with AI built in. However, if you already own AirPods Pro, it's straightforward to take the test and give yourself a boost if needed. And it's an excellent way to introduce people to the idea of HAs, without breaking the bank. I've even used old pairs of them for my parents. Of course, battery life isn't sufficient for all-day use, but if you need it for a recital or one-on-one talks, and the like, it's the best bang for your buck on the market.

Re: Ask HN: Hearing aid wearers, what's hot?

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I’ll chime in with a sidebar: Anyone got any experience using hearing aids for the "hearing in noise" issue (aka. King-Kopetzky syndrome or lack of cocktail party effect [0], part of a whole bunch of things also called adhd for ears). Essentially I have filtering issues, as soon as multiple people talk, I can’t really understand anyone anymore, unless they very directly speak into my ears so they are significantly lo…

Airpod Pros work well for me in adaptive mode for this, I've never compared to devices more dedicated for this thing, but it's enough for me. They seemingly reduce most of the surrounding noise while I can still hear the person talking closest to me.

Re: Ask HN: Hearing aid wearers, what's hot?

#120
I have a related question.

What is the best thing for people with no hearing loss but need help in noisy environments?

My partner and I both have difficulty listening to conversations in crowds.

Logic tells me that there must be some noise cancelling devices with directional mics that let you hear just what is in front of you, but querying staff in stores gets me the same bemused look as when I asked about Arm laptops before Apple did one.

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