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Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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This is a hot topic among some of my nerdier SME friends, and our conclusion is that the major players are HPE and Nutanix. At least from our perspective over here in Sweden. HPE did a big brain move to support multiple hypervisor backends with their own frontend. The only way to go forward imho. I'm using Proxmox at my current $dayjob, and we're quite happy with it. I come from a big VMware shop and I think most bus…

Proxmox is about to miss their window of opportunity here. They are uniquely positioned to take on VMWare, but their outfit seems like a fairly tiny and conservative company with zero ambition to take on the world, so to speak.

They're a european business. I don't think they're interested in the stress involved in selling to enterprise.

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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We're driving as many apps as possible to containers, and replacing most of our virtual infrastructure with Talos Linux [1] which is a reasonably hardened OS dedicated to Kubernetes hosting. I strongly recommend using the terraform provider to help manage at scale. The docs seem a little sparse for beginners, but if you already know kubernetes concepts, it's pretty easy to pick up. If you know flux style gitups talhe…

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That's not the word I'd use.

I might say when they have an opinion on something it can be very specific.

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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If they aren't interested in that business, then it isn't really a window of opportunity for them. In fact I respect a company that chooses to not pursue business opportunities that don't fit their goals, and instead focus on being a good fit for the market they are in. Growth isn't the most important thing.

I've been at multiple companies that wasted millions courting large enterprise contacts only to not make a single sale. It does make the sales update more exciting though—if we just get this one sale… I can't blame any company for wanting to stay out of that market.

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Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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I've just enjoyed the realization that I attended a meeting where our VMware support rep used "Just think about how much money using bare metal hardware is costing" as an argument to my management during that meeting after these price increases were becoming common news.

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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Bought out by Broadcom, who realized if you increase prices by 10x and lose 75% of customers, you end with more revenue and less support costs

Hock Tan's only goal is to increase stock value. Period. At the expense of anything and everything else, stock value.

aka fiduciary duty

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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This is a hot topic among some of my nerdier SME friends, and our conclusion is that the major players are HPE and Nutanix. At least from our perspective over here in Sweden. HPE did a big brain move to support multiple hypervisor backends with their own frontend. The only way to go forward imho. I'm using Proxmox at my current $dayjob, and we're quite happy with it. I come from a big VMware shop and I think most bus…

Proxmox is about to miss their window of opportunity here. They are uniquely positioned to take on VMWare, but their outfit seems like a fairly tiny and conservative company with zero ambition to take on the world, so to speak.

Lifestyle business, the antithesis of Y Combinator.

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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For Mac/Linux/Hybrid-Cloud shops -> "Incus" (can also host macOS and Windows instances) for most work and "Firecracker" for specialized appliances.

For Windows shops (you sick bstrds :D) -> Hyper-V

RE: Proxmox, not a hater, but errtime I read that name, I picture "Mike Myers Dieter". Seriously tho, the best they could do for themselves would be to make ProxMox into a UI for the Incus REST API (and their legacy backend) then repackage their enterprise offerings as add-ons for Incus (for email, DRS, etc.) BTW, the first person to release an "I use this exclusively everyday for months before releasing it on Github" gesture-controlled WebGL/Audio and WebXR based UX with agentic Incus REST API sensor analysis and settings controls, will win a valuable prize.

https://aws.plainenglish.io/why-even-google-is-rethinking-ku...

-> Mind earlier warnings that many people in the Industry these days tend to follow each other around on forums creating a sort of "feedback loop" so bad trends (eg, PHP) takeover the game. https://youtu.be/uPWQfAv_qBQ>

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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Do not ever use openshift

They have a dominant percentage of banking workloads at this point.

I can confirm this, from my experience. Many organizations have foregone ms in lieu of redhat and oracle, and redhat is slowly injecting openshift where they can fit it.

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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This is a hot topic among some of my nerdier SME friends, and our conclusion is that the major players are HPE and Nutanix. At least from our perspective over here in Sweden. HPE did a big brain move to support multiple hypervisor backends with their own frontend. The only way to go forward imho. I'm using Proxmox at my current $dayjob, and we're quite happy with it. I come from a big VMware shop and I think most bus…

I proposed that my job move to Openshift on bare metal but there was some pushback because of missing functionnalities ?

In the end we're going with hpe.

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