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Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

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A question mark after a search on Kagi gives you an AI summary, the latency is good. If you go for the highest tier subscription on kagi, you get https://kagi.com/assistant which gives you a huge swath of AI models to handle your searching.

True, but I still pay for both Claude and ChatGPT so that I can use the latest models.

Kagi includes access to Claude 3.7 Sonnet with Extended Thinking and ChatGTP 4o, both with search.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

#112

Search is primarily a portal - you know a particular resource exists, you just don't know its exact URL. You hear about this new programming language called "Frob", and you assume it must have a website. So you google "Frob language". You hear that there was a plane crash in DC, and assume (CNN/AP/your_favorite_news_site) has almost certainly written an article about it. You google "DC plane crash." LLMs aren't ever…

Except when search engines bury the thing you're obviously looking for under an entire page of sponsored ads, then that convenience argument starts to not hold up as well...

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

#113
I've been tracking this (literally on paper). I've moved around 75% of my queries to LLMs from search engines. And, the main reason I use search engines is because of queries on mobile, where the devices still make it much easier to search with a traditional search engine; and the omnibar.

Keep in mind that I'm not counting in my 75% queries where I get my answer from Google Gemini I'm just guessing if you added that in, it would rise to 85-90%.

My thought is if browsers and phones started pushing queries over to an LLM, search (and search revenue) would virtually disappear.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

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It’s tough to find anything useful these days because of all the spam - especially due to AI, content. If I do use it, I usually use it to find something on Reddit.

For anything where practical skills are concerned (woodworking, metalworking, leatherworking, anodising stuff, etc.) I have to resort to searching on Youtube. There is, fortunately, a lot of information there in the form of tutorials and guides. Search engines are useless there. Most of the pages returned are indeed typical AI slop just there for the ad impressions.

It's extremely disheartening. I have no trust in Youtube staying accessible as a font of public knowledge. It just works out that way now.

Reddit seems hit or miss depending on the topic. Plenty of threads there where [deleted] asked a question and [disgruntled user] replied with something which has been replaced with random text by a fancy deletion tool.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

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I use (and pay for) Kagi.

Even without much customization (lenses, scoring, etc) it's so much better (for my use cases) I happily pay for it.

Recently I have also started to use Perplexity more for "research for a few minutes and get back to me" type of things.

Queries like "what was that Python package for X" I usually ask an AI right from my editor, or ChatGPT if I'm in the browser already.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

#116
Yes. It's still pretty common that I want the official website for a thing, or product reviews written by humans who actually know what they're talking about rather than a single answer to a question. DuckDuckGo is better at delivering it than LLMs are. I also don't want a hallucination, so I appreciate Perplexity's easily-checked citations when I do use an LLM.
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