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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by Herokladaikum »

kyriakos wrote: post #77
Gigachad wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure this is really an Apple thing. Basically all the tech companies have released some VR or AR product that either flopped, or was downgraded to a niche industry product. Remember just a few years ago when Meta was trying to convince us that the metaverse was the future.

Part of Apple's strength is getting into the market at the right time when technology is ready and offering a streamlined, just works experience. Apple Vision Pro is nothing like that and that's why the previous commenter said it's not the usual Apple...

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by Herokladaikum »

ffsm8 wrote: post #86
Gigachad wrote: post #60

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Not sure this is really an Apple thing. Basically all the tech companies have released some VR or AR product that either flopped, or was downgraded to a niche industry product. Remember just a few years ago when Meta was trying to convince us that the metaverse was the future.

Meta didn't stop with that though? Just a few weeks ago they released new products that actually have a much bigger potential then the Vision Pro for the usecases virgildotcode imagined. I.e. Orion AR. As a person that only knows about it from the presentation/demos it kinda sounded like a crossover of VR headset and Google Glasses https://about.fb.com/news/2024/09/introducing-orion-our-firs... Though I sincerely dou…

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by Herokladaikum »

Gigachad wrote: post #59
virgildotcodes wrote: post #23

I feel like I would have been the ideal customer for it. I travel a lot and I'm a developer deep in the Apple ecosystem who is constantly wishing he had more screen real estate while bouncing between hotels and Airbnbs every few weeks. I bought it and tried it for two weeks and ended up returning it. It's really cool, but even aside from the issues with 1.0 like not being able to just pull up individual app windows f…

I don’t understand why they didn’t make this a gaming device. All this hassle would be worth it to play immersive shooter games or VR chat with full hand and face tracking. No one is going to go through all that to open up Apple notes and YouTube when your phone and MacBook does exactly the same thing.

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by shuoli84 »

lefstathiou wrote: post #43
shuoli84 wrote: post #37

I am a developer and coding in vision pro for around 2 months. It is heavy, without third-party accessories, it is unbearable. But with 3d printed gadgets and band, the weight problem is solved 80%. I code in mac virtual desktop, enlarge it and push it as far as possible. The text is clear enough in most of time. But the resolution is still low, i hope the ultra wide virtual desktop feature can solve the problem. Usi…

Mind sharing which accessories you like the most ?

Currently i use the single band from apple, and two 3d printed parts with a homemade band. The extra band split a lot weight from cheek. I tried several options, this is the most comfortable one.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by ragazzina »

devsda wrote: post #79
matco11 wrote: post #57

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This is the best review I have ever read on the Apple Vision Pro. Also, we should probably stop lying to ourselves, and finally admit what we have known in hour hearts for a little while now: Apple is not anymore what it used to be. Reading this makes it clear… Apple Vision Pro is the modern equivalent of John Sculley’s Apple Newton

My take away from the GP was that it's not so much as an issue with Apple'version of VR but about the state of the technology itself. The hardware today is too bulky and difficult to use as a daily driver. May be Google was on to something with their glasses and may be some version of electrochromic glass goggles that also works as a display is the answer. I agree that Apple is not what it used to be. They normally d…

> not so much as an issue with Apple'version of VR [...] The hardware today is too bulky

Apple knew the hardware would be too bulky and went forward anyway.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by jfoster »

solardev wrote: post #109
jfoster wrote: post #67

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The visual quality of the Apple Vision Pro is extremely far ahead of any other headset. I generally don't like Apple products and I think they made plenty of mistakes with Vision Pro, but the visual quality is exceptional for our time. I wouldn't advise anyone to buy it, but I would strongly encourage everyone to try it out in an Apple Store.

Wish they'd just release a set of basic wired glasses with those displays, for tethered usage with a Mac. I don't need the AR/VR crap, a battery pack, etc., but I'd be very happy with a set of high-res glasses that act as external monitors.

Nice idea. I would probably almost go for that.

I wonder how much they could cut from it to make the device you're imagining more appealing from a cost & weight perspective...

1. Front-facing display

2. Battery

3. LIDAR (might need some other tracking to replace it, unless the cameras are enough?)

4. Eye-tracking

5. Wireless module

6. Less processing power

7. No SSD

I think it would lose some "wow" factor in the process, but probably be a much more pragmatic device for everyday usage.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

Gigachad wrote: post #60
matco11 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the best review I have ever read on the Apple Vision Pro. Also, we should probably stop lying to ourselves, and finally admit what we have known in hour hearts for a little while now: Apple is not anymore what it used to be. Reading this makes it clear… Apple Vision Pro is the modern equivalent of John Sculley’s Apple Newton

Not sure this is really an Apple thing. Basically all the tech companies have released some VR or AR product that either flopped, or was downgraded to a niche industry product. Remember just a few years ago when Meta was trying to convince us that the metaverse was the future.

You can pry my oculus quest 2 from my cold dead hands. But yes, the meta verse isn’t happening. However, they just released a new Eminem beat saber song that is crazy addictive.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by solardev »

jfoster wrote: post #116
solardev wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wish they'd just release a set of basic wired glasses with those displays, for tethered usage with a Mac. I don't need the AR/VR crap, a battery pack, etc., but I'd be very happy with a set of high-res glasses that act as external monitors.

Nice idea. I would probably almost go for that. I wonder how much they could cut from it to make the device you're imagining more appealing from a cost & weight perspective... 1. Front-facing display 2. Battery 3. LIDAR (might need some other tracking to replace it, unless the cameras are enough?) 4. Eye-tracking 5. Wireless module 6. Less processing power 7. No SSD I think it would lose some "wow" factor in the proc…

> I think it would lose some "wow" factor in the process, but probably be a much more pragmatic device for everyday usage.

Yeah, exactly. I'm really hoping Apple tries that instead after the failure of the Vision Pro. It's the opposite paradigm: Not "complete computing device in a headset", but rather "just an eye-worn display and nothing else". It doesn't even need any fancy tracking, just basic gyro stabilization so the windows don't shake, like the VR mode on phones already have (e.g. for Google Cardboard). They don't even need to be aligned to anything in the real world.

Other companies are making glasses like that, but the displays aren't very good – IMO that's the limiting factor.

I've tried many AR/VR devices over the past decades and it's just not a use case I can see most people ever wanting, myself included. But "portable private monitor with a giant canvas" is an itch that still hasn't been scratched :( It's less sexy in some ways, but it's also something I'd probably use every day.

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