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Re: Ask HN: what are examples of successful "open-source alternatives"?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plex really does have a lot going for it with the really nice Apps -- Plexamp works especially well with large music libraries. I hadn't used Jellyfin in some time, but I went to set it up last week, and it's still not as simple as Plex is. Really wish the Jellyfin folks would put together a docker compose setup that run nginx and lets encrypt for example.

Jellyfin has its own apps plus a few other community-built ones like finamp[1] and findroid[2] which I personally use a lot. I would argue that setting up nginx or other reverse proxy servers is outside the scope of Jellyfin. That is an infrastructure concern that is usually going to be very unique to your setup. I, for example, use Traefik as my reverse proxy which requires a different set of configurations to get i…

That's a fair point -- a reverse proxy setup may be outside the scope of the jellyfin project, but as others have pointed out they also provide an official docker image with a docker compose and other container management solutions. It just seems like a logical next step would be to outline instructions for a more secure setup using something "standard" like nginx instead of leaving it as an exercise to the user -- who may not be so tech savvy.

Re: Ask HN: what are examples of successful "open-source alternatives"?

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KiCad.

I came here to post this. It's improved much in the past few years. I never feel like I need to pay for Altium etc, or that my designs are limited by the software. I have some gripes, but they're not dealbreakers!

Re: Ask HN: what are examples of successful "open-source alternatives"?

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Wait, has no one mentioned LibreOffice yet? 200 million active users (!) seems like it's successful enough. Admittedly, it hasn't really challenged Microsoft Office yet, but it's growing, and also it's hard to look at something with 200 million active users and say 'that's a failure'. Definitely an alternative though. There's also uBlock Origin, but I don't know if it's the largest adblocker yet. It should be, though…

Came for LibreOffice, saw that mentioned already.

Re: Ask HN: what are examples of successful "open-source alternatives"?

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about git? Wasn’t git developed exactly as an alternative to a commercial product? Git is probably the most successful open source alternative software, so much that it completely obliterated the competition.

Yes, Linus Torvalds developed git because the Linux kernel at the time used Bitkeeper, a proprietary source control system and its owner was changing the license. Now, everyone and their goldfish uses git, and I haven't heard about Bitkeeper in many years. It hasn't completely obliterated all the competition, but most of it, and those that aren't dead are on life support: in the open-source domain, CVS is mostly dead…

Linus didn’t write git because the BitKeeper license had changed exactly, he did it because Larry McVoy yanked Linux off the platform after Andrew Tridgell (of Samba and rsync fame) started poking around at the protocol to reverse engineer it. It turned out BK was so buggy that that alone was enough to corrupt other repos on the server, so McVoy just went and disabled Linux’s access without warning.

Linus was pretty steamed at the participants in that debacle (especially Tridge for some reason) and named his replacement for what he thought of them. Now you know.

Re: Ask HN: what are examples of successful "open-source alternatives"?

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post #22

Examples I haven't seen mentioned yet: Firefox. Atom/VSCode (Sublime Text clones). Android (iOS clone). Various databases (postgres, mongodb, etc). Reddit (Digg alternative, since closed source) though I'm not sure releasing their source code had anything to do with their success. HashiCorp in general sort of counts though it's harder to say "it was competing against X".

Android is not a iOS clone, and open source-ish (Google still decides the roadmap)

Android existed (internally) before iOS, but to quote a google engineer working on it at the time, iOS released and they went "We’re going to have to start over."

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/12/the-d...

> and open source-ish (Google still decides the roadmap)

Open source doesn't mean developed by committee, it means the source is released openly and under a permissive license. That is unquestionably done with android, to the point where competitors have taken that source and made competing phones without Google's involvement.

Re: Ask HN: what are examples of successful "open-source alternatives"?

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post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jellyfin has its own apps plus a few other community-built ones like finamp[1] and findroid[2] which I personally use a lot. I would argue that setting up nginx or other reverse proxy servers is outside the scope of Jellyfin. That is an infrastructure concern that is usually going to be very unique to your setup. I, for example, use Traefik as my reverse proxy which requires a different set of configurations to get i…

That's a fair point -- a reverse proxy setup may be outside the scope of the jellyfin project, but as others have pointed out they also provide an official docker image with a docker compose and other container management solutions. It just seems like a logical next step would be to outline instructions for a more secure setup using something "standard" like nginx instead of leaving it as an exercise to the user -- w…

> It just seems like a logical next step would be to outline instructions for a more secure setup using something "standard" like nginx instead of leaving it as an exercise to the user -- who may not be so tech savvy.

Maybe this is what you're looking for:

https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/networking/

Edit: On desktop, the sidebar is visible which includes links to instructions for Nginx, Caddy, Let's Encrypt, and some other things. I didn't realize at first because I looked at it on the desktop, but on mobile it seems you'll need to hit the hamburger menu to get to those links.

Re: Ask HN: what are examples of successful "open-source alternatives"?

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Wait, has no one mentioned LibreOffice yet? 200 million active users (!) seems like it's successful enough. Admittedly, it hasn't really challenged Microsoft Office yet, but it's growing, and also it's hard to look at something with 200 million active users and say 'that's a failure'. Definitely an alternative though. There's also uBlock Origin, but I don't know if it's the largest adblocker yet. It should be, though…

> uBlock Origin

I think the market share of ublock Origin helped limit the success of so-called "acceptable ads" schemes, where adblock makers took money for excluding certain ad providers.

But I don't have any data to back that up either.

Re: Ask HN: what are examples of successful "open-source alternatives"?

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post #22

Examples I haven't seen mentioned yet: Firefox. Atom/VSCode (Sublime Text clones). Android (iOS clone). Various databases (postgres, mongodb, etc). Reddit (Digg alternative, since closed source) though I'm not sure releasing their source code had anything to do with their success. HashiCorp in general sort of counts though it's harder to say "it was competing against X".

Atom development has ceased, does that count as successful?

Atom is actually alive and well as a community project under the new name “Pulsar”.

https://pulsar-edit.dev/

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