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Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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Yeah I don’t know why we can’t just say free plans in this context. Open source should be a generic for everything that’s free.

I'd disagree that the terms are synonymous. Free plans probably could mean printed out single sheet plans with renderings. Open Source usually means the legal freedom to change, update and share whatever it is. To me, the source of the plans is provided so that someone could change/update the plans as they wish. In the context of architectural plans this could be the files in something like Fusion 360 if that were ac…

I should clarify, I meant to type Open Source should NOT be a generic for everything free, but I was on mobile at the time.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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post #108

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Maybe this varies regionally? I'm around Kansas City. The biggest builders here will be in multiple subdivisions at once, with varying topography, and they may or may not have been the ones to plat out the lots. They will absolutely sell you any house plan in their catalog to go on any lot, so long as it fits. You might get a walkout basement instead of a full in-ground basement, but that's about how much it varies.…

> The biggest builders here will be in multiple subdivisions at once, with varying topography You are ignoring the tens of thousands of hours pre-built builders put into streamlining designs that can be put on almost any plot of land. Think of it as downloading a piece of software and saying "oh it just works everywhere" while ignoring the engineering time that went into testing and bug fixing on every platform. Rega…

You are ignoring the tens of thousands of hours pre-built builders put into streamlining designs that can be put on almost any plot of land.

No they aren't. This thread was started by someone saying "The idea of planning a house without taking into account the site where it will sit will never produce a good house.".

Both of you (and everyone) is saying this isn't true.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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I want the plans for a bog-simple square house with boring peaked roof. I want it to be designed to minimize cuts and make building simple. I want the roof to be two slabs with no fancy protrusions, angles, gables, etc. I want something that is easy to build and maintain. As far as I’ve been able to find out, bardominiums are the closest to what I want.

The envelope on your house is the least complex part of it. How are you going to insulate? Where are vapor and air barriers? How will your framing interface to your foundation? What will your foundation design look like depending on soil conditions, moisture, frost heave, etc? What kind of plumbing, mechanical, and electrical components and infrastructure are required according to local code?

The frame of the house is easy. The rest is not.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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post #37

I want the plans for a bog-simple square house with boring peaked roof. I want it to be designed to minimize cuts and make building simple. I want the roof to be two slabs with no fancy protrusions, angles, gables, etc. I want something that is easy to build and maintain. As far as I’ve been able to find out, bardominiums are the closest to what I want.

That's essentially what I designed for myself, to reduce budget while (IMO) still looking pretty and historic. It's a 30x38 foot box. I've wrote a bit about it:

https://map.simonsarris.com/p/designing-a-new-old-home-begin...

But what you decide for the interior plan, to be ideal for you, is very much up to how you plan to use your house.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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post #91

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I duno if I agree with this. They might not go lot to lot but a big developer also is the one who orientates the lots and selects the designs ... I think it is all relative to how they do business / organize lots. It's more general than lot to lot, but still seems to take into account the general lay of the land, the city's codes and etc.

Maybe this varies regionally? I'm around Kansas City. The biggest builders here will be in multiple subdivisions at once, with varying topography, and they may or may not have been the ones to plat out the lots. They will absolutely sell you any house plan in their catalog to go on any lot, so long as it fits. You might get a walkout basement instead of a full in-ground basement, but that's about how much it varies.…

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Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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Not completely what you are looking for, but still open source plans of house: Wikihouse https://www.wikihouse.cc/ Earthships are also said to be open source, but the plans are (definitely) not free https://earthshipbiotecture.com/ You can also check Open Source Home, by Studiolada (those are free, but the plans are in french) https://www.countryliving.com/remodeling-renovation/news/g46... Open Source Ecology is now…

The earthship biotecture project is really neat, thanks for sharing.

I think it's worth noting that the inventor of the earthship plans does not himself live in an earthship. I have seen a lot of anecdotal accounts of people living in earthships developing health issues because of off-gassing from the tires. Also they are really optimized for desert environments, they don't preform as well in high humidity.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe this varies regionally? I'm around Kansas City. The biggest builders here will be in multiple subdivisions at once, with varying topography, and they may or may not have been the ones to plat out the lots. They will absolutely sell you any house plan in their catalog to go on any lot, so long as it fits. You might get a walkout basement instead of a full in-ground basement, but that's about how much it varies.…

> The biggest builders here will be in multiple subdivisions at once, with varying topography You are ignoring the tens of thousands of hours pre-built builders put into streamlining designs that can be put on almost any plot of land. Think of it as downloading a piece of software and saying "oh it just works everywhere" while ignoring the engineering time that went into testing and bug fixing on every platform. Rega…

> Regardless of what you see as a casual outside observer, an architect and civil engineer are putting their stamps on each set of blueprints for each construction site.

Hard disagree on this wishful thinking. I've literally seen the submitted plans for my house - there was absolutely no architect or engineer stamp on them. The true mega-builders might do this, but smaller operations (say, 25 to a few hundred houses a year) don't.

In my subdivision (which will be a few hundred houses built by one company) the plans are all new to this subdivision, designed by the head guy, and there aren't enough houses of any plan to amortize "tens of thousands of hours" among them (they've built 4 copies of my house so far, for reference).

You don't need an engineer or architect involved in building a "normal" house or developing plans in large parts of the country. There's no calculations required, for the most part, either. The codes allow a prescriptive path to compliance, so if you fall the span charts in the codes, it's good to go.

The only real notable exception is in truss design - but that's never designed by an architect either. The builder sends the house design to a truss company along with required loads in the area, and the truss company sends back trusses that cover the space and hold the required loads.

Threads like this are peak HN - people who "know better" how the world should work (and hey, I wish I worked like that too) telling people who have actually experienced something their experience can't possibly be real. I actually have had a house built recently. I did a ton of research, and this builder was the best I could do in my area and at my price range (about $600k). The options get a LOT worse as you spend less on new constructions.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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post #108

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> The biggest builders here will be in multiple subdivisions at once, with varying topography You are ignoring the tens of thousands of hours pre-built builders put into streamlining designs that can be put on almost any plot of land. Think of it as downloading a piece of software and saying "oh it just works everywhere" while ignoring the engineering time that went into testing and bug fixing on every platform. Rega…

You are ignoring the tens of thousands of hours pre-built builders put into streamlining designs that can be put on almost any plot of land. No they aren't. This thread was started by someone saying "The idea of planning a house without taking into account the site where it will sit will never produce a good house.". Both of you (and everyone) is saying this isn't true.

I'm actually taking issue with that assertion - mid-sized builders absolutely don't have that kind of time put into the designs of their house. They build one and iterate on the problems - it's not so different from software. I know - we've had quite a few problems related to being the 2nd iteration of a new house plan for a builder.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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post #25

Planning applications in the UK are publicly available and many have architectural drawings/site plans attached with varying degrees of detail. There are millions of applications and each local authority has a different database so it may take a bit of digging to find what you are searching for. Application example - https://publicaccess.tewkesbury.gov.uk/online-applications/a... Drawings example - https://publicacce…

Same in Denmark, you can either look them up on https://weblager.dk or if a house you interested in isn't available there you can normally request the drawing from the city, for a small fee.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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At the risk of being slightly off-topic, what are good sources to find out wether and in which conditions building your own house is financially advantageous vs buying an existing (new or old) house.

Financially advantangeous would be simple:

Get an itemised estimate of the cost of land, cost of construction (include permitting and utility connect fees), and cost of housing while under construction, convert those to net present value, and compare to the all-in purchase price of the house with taxes and fees.

If you think future taxes or maintenance will be significantly different, you can estimate those in net present value as well.

IMHO, building your own house isn't usually about financial advantage, it's about getting a house that fits more of your needs and wants with less compromise than picking from what's available. But there might be exceptions if you have access to land, labor, or materials at a significant discount to market rates. Or if you want a much smaller house than is usually marketted.

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