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Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Gmail

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The reason Gmail is free is because they have ads. I wouldn't expect to find a free and good email service. Here's one that costs some money: http://fastmail.fm/

The new beta web interface for fastmail.fm looks pretty good: https://beta.fastmail.fm

It that a joke? Cause clicking on sign up took me to: https://beta.fastmail.fm/%3C?%20Signup%20?%3E

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Gmail

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Darn I was hoping Gmail was in that list. Purely out of curiosity I'd love to download the 20,000 messages I have in there to do some analysis..

Gmail is not in that list, because they have IMAP access ( http://www.dataliberation.org/google/gmail ). You can just setup your account in for example OSX Mail, after synchronizing your messages will be in ~/Library/Mail (albeit not in a really nice folder structure like pure mbox or maildir, but you should be able to convert them without much hassle). Or you could use offlineimap ( http://www.offlineimap.org ), whi…

I used offlineimap when I moved from gmail, worked fine.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Gmail

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And while we are at it maybe a good alternative to Google Calendar? I've been wanting to switch away from these two for some time now.

Yes, this is definitely relevant to my interests as well. So far I haven't found anything as good as GC and even that is not as good as I would like it to be.

Besides gmail's superior spam filtering, this is the one thing I miss from google.

I look around once in awhile, and I never do find a good solution. My current solution is Thunderbird's Lightning extension, and I cringe every time Thunderbird updates, which is often now that Mozilla has the constant update fetish.

I would love to find a reasonably priced calendar solution with a company that I believe will be around for at least five years.

I really wish fastmail did calendars. Are you listening FM?

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Gmail

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Tangentially related - I would pay for an email service with an off-site delivery for Gmail recipients. Basically, it should hold any email that is to be sent to GMail servers and instead send a note saying "You've got mail, pick it up here " rel="nofollow">https:// . Anything like this out there?

That's hardcore!

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Gmail

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Lavabit is pretty good. I've been with them (Personal Account plan) for about 4 years now. No downtime, IMAP and a stated goal in caring about their users privacy. The webmail interface is pretty modest, but they do provide a way to set pretty advanced regex server-side filters. You have to upgrade to a paid plan if you want decent SPAM filtering though. They're also planning a surprise upgrade soon. http://lavabit.c…

They're also planning a surprise upgrade soon.

What does this mean?

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Gmail

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pair.com has cheap shared hosting which includes email. In some ways they're more flexible than solutions like fastmail. It's a middle ground between total outsourcing and running your own server: you get a shell account, yet you don't have to keep the server up.

I used pair.com for this and other purposes for many years, happily, and I'm thinking of going back. I'm on fastmail at the moment. One surprising development: pair.com used to be freebsd-only, and now they offer ubuntu as an alternative.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Gmail

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Microsoft will host Exchange accounts for you with 25 GB mailboxes for $5 per month per user. It's an unbelievably good deal. See more at http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/en-us/pricing-exchange-onl...

Of course, this is brought to you courtesy of competition from Google but this blows the doors off Google Apps. Don't need a separate synchronizing application to keep Outlook synched. Everything works just as if you had local Exchange except you don't need a local Exchange server or anti-spam or anti-virus solution.

Surprisingly, Microsoft has become very competitive in hosted email.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Gmail

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The reason Gmail is free is because they have ads. I wouldn't expect to find a free and good email service. Here's one that costs some money: http://fastmail.fm/

If it's important it might be worth paying for. Fastmail is $40/year for the full fledged personal plan w/ your own domain etc etc. The filtering support is better than Gmail and if you want to write your own Sieve rules you can get very specific about it. Happy customer of about seven years.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Gmail

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As most here, I'd advise to go for a commercial service. Selfhosting is fun but can cause unnecessary headaches. Fastmail seems to have an impeccable reputation. I have been using sherweb for several years now. Works very well. It's a bit more expensive but you also get a lot more, too. Think calendar, contacts. Plus, most smartphones work wonderfully with the Exchange mailbox. They are located in Canada. Last but no…

Why wouldn't you just use Microsoft if you want hosted Exchange?

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/en-us/pricing-exchange-onl...

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Gmail

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Ah, my fellow geeks. Excellent discussions on replacements for the backend infrastructure and handling. :)

Now, does anyone have a replacement for the UI/client? Something good and multiplatform that a) deals well with multi media (images, attachments, etc) and b) still retains MH semantics?

The use of MH style semantics is what attracted me to the whole thing back in 2004.

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