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Re: Ask HN: Do you feel psychological safety at your job?

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28304283409234 wrote: post #96
moomoo11 wrote: post #84

It’s a job dude. You sign the offer letter for 300k plus TC and you’re just a resource. Do it well and you can leave any time you want for something else. You’re not forced to work for 300k lol. Just hop ship and make 400k. You’re working for a capitalist machination. You want something deeper start your own company or do something else. These companies don’t care about you. The “cool tech” you build is just an icing…

Oh if only I could upvote this x1000. Watch the documentary "The Corporation". It explains perfectly what is going on.

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Re: Ask HN: Do you feel psychological safety at your job?

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Post by moomoo11 »

bastijn wrote: post #52
clarkdale wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Physchological safety" is a buzz word common in MBA circles. There are many articles written about it, shared on HN even.

I'm torn between down voting this for being unnecessarily condescending and letting you feel safe to speak your mind on HN. Take my down vote with the knowledge it's OK to share you disagree or find the topic a nuisance of late, but you can be a little more thoughtful on how to voice that.

What was offensive about it? Or do “MBAs” trigger you? Because then I totally understand I find them offensive too.

Re: Ask HN: Do you feel psychological safety at your job?

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Post by woodruffw »

scarface74 wrote: post #90
woodruffw wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People live paycheck-to-paycheck for all sorts of reasons, including long-term medical costs or family support. FAANG salaries certainly make that less common, but I think we can probably be a little more empathetic about life's vagaries.

And what type of “long term medical costs” aren’t covered by the insurance you get from your job?

The kind that affect your non-immediate relatives, or require long term physical therapy (many plans will only cover the bare minimum), or really anything else. Medical insurance is not uniform in quality.

Re: Ask HN: Do you feel psychological safety at your job?

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Post by aaomidi »

nickd2001 wrote: post #106
fnordpiglet wrote: post #50

Interestingly I’m a few years over 30 years info my tech career and it was avoid 10 years ago I could see the fnords at last. There is no safety, there never was. There’s no golden ring, there is no winning, there is no camaraderie, there is no value in promotion, the respect of your peers is meaningless, and it’s all just a sham to get you to expend more of your soul for less money. Once I had pierced the ceiling in…

I'm just surprised people buy into the corporate nonsense in the first place. You have to be pretty intelligent to be a software developer.... yet... many of the same intelligent people appear not to understand how they're being manipulated in the workplace. Or the fact that looking after one another is a better idea for everyone, than competing against each other and behaving in a dog-eat-dog manner. In my experienc…

You don’t really have to be intelligent to be a software dev.

Literally just look at all the blockchain crap.

Re: Ask HN: Do you feel psychological safety at your job?

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Post by [deleted] »

mariusor wrote: post #110
mejutoco wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Article 23,24,25 of the universal declaration of rights > Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment. > Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. > Ev…

I'm pretty sure that the first part of the quote doesn't mean what you're implying it does. The right to work and free choice of employment does not make one safe against not being offered a job or being fired from one.

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Re: Ask HN: Do you feel psychological safety at your job?

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Post by atlgator »

mejutoco wrote: post #109
atlgator wrote: post #36

It's a bloody job. I have no right to a job. You have no right to a job. I just maintain and grow my skills and demonstrate my value as best I can until the day I'm no longer needed. Then on to the next thing. Psychological safety doesn't exist.

Article 23,24,25 of the universal declaration of rights > Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment. > Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. > Ev…

Not sure to what extent the United States acknowledges such things from the UN, but for our purposes let's say it does. An individual may have a right to work, but business owners also have a right to employ who they want (barring any unlawful/discriminatory practices). Put differently, losing your job does not infringe on your right to work, you just need to find someone else to work for.

An individual's right to work and earn a meaningful living ends where others' rights begin. No one is obligated to do anything for you outside of relevant laws. It's on the individual to pursue work and a meaningful living.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

badpun wrote: post #103
Apocryphon wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your employer can also choose to terminate that relationship at any time. No problem, you could just get a job at another shop, right? Except when the black swan appears and all the other companies are doing layoffs and freezes, flooding the market with talent while limiting positions. Then, in that hour of crisis, is the true nature of the relationship revealed at last.

That's why you have savings to wait out that period...

Or live in a country that affords you a safety net and has rules for terminations.

Re: Ask HN: Do you feel psychological safety at your job?

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Post by red-iron-pine »

buzzert wrote: post #22
whitemary wrote: post #10

I am an American, so of course not.

You know we do have welfare/unemployment/rental assistance too, right?

Yeah and it's paltry, not easy to get, and often not applicable if you made above $X dollars.

Gap health insurance (COBRA) is also absurdly expensive.

By comparison, I live in Canada now and I'm covered by provincial healthcare no matter what, and I had "transit insurance" aka COBRA Canada through the same provider who did our healthcare and dental stuff which was billed at the same rate I paid before, albeit with slightly less benefits. Maybe $110/month CAD.

Was also eligible for COVID AID just by having any sort of job impact. Covered my half of the rent for 3 months.

Re: Ask HN: Do you feel psychological safety at your job?

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Post by red-iron-pine »

rcarmo wrote: post #95
User23 wrote: post #8

Anyone that's been in tech at the FAANG tier for two decades and doesn't have at least one to two years of runway not including retirement accounts is observably terrible at managing money.

FAANG only pays well in the US. Those of us outside have to do with “above market rate”, which is a fluid concept.

I'm in Canada and cry when I look at levels.fyi
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