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Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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> steer clear of hateful/racist/bigoted patterns of thought If you want to widen the spectrum of humanity that you're exposed to, you're inevitably going to come across these people. Personally I thought it was well worth it. Plenty of good and bad to be found.

I agree with this.

I'm totally ok with sites on the internet that require you to have a bit of thick skin or being mildly uncomfortable with some ideas, since there's a spectrum that goes both ways, somewhat conceptually related to the Overton window, moral relativism, etc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

Things you disagree with will always exist, and it's occasionally worth reading to sharpen and inform your own opinions—you don't need to adopt the perspective or arguments of viewpoints you disagree with, etc. Personally, I think it adds flavor to thinking, as a willful rejection of hegemonic thought practices. Occasionally, on an empathetic reading, you grow to understand that people who have opinions who make you uncomfortable at face-value sometimes have good intent behind it, and in a critical lens you realize they may just be misguided in how to resolve a problem they see. (Certainly not in all cases, but we're humans—it's good to not reduce differing perspectives to one-dimensional readings.)

But what should not exist is content like (for lack of better examples) Kiwifarms, where bad actors used the relative anonymity of the internet plus crowd psychology to radicalize folks in their in-circle and cause extreme, mortal harm to others. That's not the good weird web.

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

#112

Few ways, in no particular order: - are.na seems to attract people who have odd interests and it’s full of quirky websites - webrings are still a thing and there’s a bunch out there worth checking out - directories like https://512kb.club/ are usually full of interesting sites - by following links on blogs and sites you find interesting - some cool forums are still out there ( https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php )…

Is there a way to report theforest.link sites? One of the first ones I was directed to is casually antisemitic

Really? Can you send me an email with the link? hello at manuelmoreale dot com

Thanks

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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post #11

StumbleUpon was the king of interesting yet random content. It seriously needs a reboot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StumbleUpon

stumbled.to is a pretty good replacement. doesn't have the same categories and features, but I find some interesting content on there.

That redirects to CloudHiker which I guess is a renaming?

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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post #11

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stumbled.to is a pretty good replacement. doesn't have the same categories and features, but I find some interesting content on there.

That redirects to CloudHiker which I guess is a renaming?

Yeah

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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post #15

You have to join the hidden un-Googleable communities where the people who create such things gather.

Yes, this. I've recently been reading a lot about OSR and indie zine-like TTRPGs. Almost indiscriminate link-clicking seems to be the safest way to end up in the weird zones of any hobby. The beauty of it (in this specific case) is that the farther you go from mainstream, the more you encounter people who create stuff. Weird, wonderful stuff.

Yes, but do you know about the Mongrel Banquet Club? The secret cabal of OSRians and their behind-the-scenes machinations? Google it my friend, google it. Many of the weird folk you allude to were members, I hear.

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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post #59

I find Boing Boing ( https://boingboing.net/ ) is a good newsletter of weird stuff.

Be sure to have an ad blocker for Boing Boing. My god, the irony of a site that rails against the bad practices of web commercialism embracing all the bad practices of web commercialism.

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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How is the idea that the u.s government has a secret space program that is flying around the universe under our noses with godlike technology hateful/racist/bigoted? Is it now racist/hateful/bigoted to believe in alien technology conspiracies just because anything that's not official government information can be automatically labeled as such? I think the whole solar warden thing and the universe of b.s around it is…

Its the new communism. Anything I do not like is racist/hateful/bigoted .

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Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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I'm the opposite. I actually wrote a small browser extension to make HN links open in a new tab because it annoys me so much. I can't disagree with what others have said about making it user-choice though. Maybe some kind of toggle switch that lets users set the behavior one way or the other would work?

In chrome-based browsers, you can also middle-click (mouse wheel click) a link to open it as a new tab.

That predates Chrome by many years, in Firefox if not Opera, Konqueror, etc.

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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post #42

Few ways, in no particular order: - are.na seems to attract people who have odd interests and it’s full of quirky websites - webrings are still a thing and there’s a bunch out there worth checking out - directories like https://512kb.club/ are usually full of interesting sites - by following links on blogs and sites you find interesting - some cool forums are still out there ( https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php )…

theforest feedback: I like link sites to open in the same tab, like HN

Following this tangent, I think Twitter has some of the worst dark pattern UX about this. Sure, middle click opens a new tab but it also hijacks focus instead of loading in the background. It's really frustrating when I see X interesting things and want to open them all at once and then go through the tabs.

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the opposite. I actually wrote a small browser extension to make HN links open in a new tab because it annoys me so much. I can't disagree with what others have said about making it user-choice though. Maybe some kind of toggle switch that lets users set the behavior one way or the other would work?

You that you can open in new tabs with ctrl+click? Just to be sure.

Yes, I'm aware. I'd rather not have to remember to do it every time though. Just personal preference.
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