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Ask HN: Viability of an anti-AI social movement?

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Re: Ask HN: Viability of an anti-AI social movement?

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Some guy remade the droid and gungan battle scene from Star Wars Episode 1 in Unreal Engine 5. The original tool hundreds of people and millions of dollars in budget. The UE5 take looks better than the original and took one guy with nearly no budget. 'Traditional' tools are on the same path to devalues cultural outputs, AI is just another nail in the coffin.

Can I please have a link?

https://youtu.be/iKTBaF7kpBI

Re: Ask HN: Viability of an anti-AI social movement?

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Ai can only ever be a mirror of our minds. It can't be more than what the programmer can feed it in training data made from other people's work from their minds. Human creativity will diminish in value with or without AI, people are moving away from sweeping cultural changes and clever interpretations. People just want to look good and relate to ideas they like. The tech is not in the drivers seat, it is just a facil…

AlphaZero beat human in the game of Go without being fed human game records. Human is no longer necessary for intelligence.

Alphazero was coded by humans, some human figured out you can isolate GO into an algorithm. Human intelligence did that.

Alphastar for starcraft 2 required a lot of tweaking by the original creators.

The game destroying AI's can be beaten by a human controlling an opposing AI.

The human is the only source of intelligence that exists. Mathematics in programming always ends in an infinite reduction from the initial broad premise, otherwise it overflows and crashes.

Computers don't have 'intelligence'. They are number machines programmed to mirror the best mathematical concepts we know.

Re: Ask HN: Viability of an anti-AI social movement?

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Imo most people who spend time resisting things like AI and Blockchain will spin their wheels before being lumped in with the Luddites. Make sure tech is used correctly because you aren't stopping it. Even if you "stop" a given tech in your country, many other countries will embrace it and leave you out of the conversation.

Re: Ask HN: Viability of an anti-AI social movement?

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>"AI" that would reduce or commoditize human intelligence. Computer generated art (DALL-E~), fiction literature, music et al. It wouldn't really reduce human intelligence, but it will definitely commoditize creative crafts even further. Which I think is what the OP is mostly referring to.

If your artwork can be generated by an AI, are you really creative?

If you use AI in your process, why do I need to pay you so much for it. Hence commoditization.

Where do we draw the line for them meaning of human interaction if not the value.

Re: Ask HN: Viability of an anti-AI social movement?

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In my opinion we should not fight against advances in AI, but rather against having that AI be owned by a few big corps. AI must be open and when it gets to the point you describe, we might not have to work anymore; we need only to guard that that won’t kill us of hunger or turns us into Soylent while the few rich control everything. AI can make humanity better by helping us out of wage slavery so more people can pur…

Your comment reminds me of some of the ideas explored in the short story Manna. https://marshallbrain.com/manna1
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