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Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

#111

Honestly I’m glad it doesn’t. Reply notifications may increase engagement, but I’d argue they reduce the quality of discussion, since such notifications would encourage rapid back and forth arguments.

I do agree with that. I wonder if it'd be better to show one's threads as a chronological list as opposed to a tree.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

#112
post #59

If I see my karma go up, that usually tells me that someone may have replied to something I said. Otherwise, I'm glad there's no alert for new replies. Conversation should be intentional. If I'm gonna be reading what someone said in response to me, I better already have enough motivation to check back and see if someone replied. When I don't check back, it's probably because I've got something more important to focus…

I use a custom style sheet to hide my karma score (except on user profile page where I can go if I'm super curious). It's broke an unhealthy cycle I would subconsciously try to craft the perfect reply and get an addiction-inducing high from some big karma boost. Or big productivity-killing negative response.

This is a feature I would like to be built-in. Seeing the karma score move makes me go look. It is an unhealthy distraction for me.

I guess I should learn how to build that custom style sheet myself. Unless you can share yours here? ;-)

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

#113

Not exactly what you're asking but I made a Safari extension (iOS/Mac) to highlights new comments: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/hn-comments/id1602932281 A whopping 5 downloads so far. :p

I'm not on safari (or Mac), so I can't try it. But what I usually do is collapse the comments I already read, and when I check the thread later, I can distinguish new (or previously unread) comments.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

#115
post #97

This has been addressed by dang before, one representative pastequote from a recent (ish) comment: Yes, I think we'll continue to avoid the notification system, not just because of flamewars but also because (relatedly) it's not so compatible with curiosity. Push notifications seem to jack up the nervous system in a way that's good for engagement but not necessarily for users—we all experience this elsewhere on the i…

I very much appreciate this!

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Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

#116
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they're asking for notifications. Even just an icon next to my profile name to indicate someone has responded to a comment would be something. And make it opt-in since a lot of people here seem to be happy with the status quo.

This is still a notification, even if it's not using the browser notifications or mobile push notifications.

> Seriously, you don't have enough interruptions?

I was responding to this. That kind of notification won't interrupt me like, say, my phone vibrating or a desktop notification.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

#117

Honestly I’m glad it doesn’t. Reply notifications may increase engagement, but I’d argue they reduce the quality of discussion, since such notifications would encourage rapid back and forth arguments.

They could do delayed notifications. Not having them at all sucks because you are pretty much guaranteed not to see replies to older comments.

Aren't comments closed after a couple weeks anyway?

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

#118
post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you are pretty much guaranteed not to see replieds to older comments. I consider this a feature, not a bug. IMO, it's good to let older conversations just kinda "run out of steam" as attention moves elsewhere. In my experience, extended discussions here tend to be unproductive flame-war level discussion. I don't see any value in making it easier to sustain that.

Im not sure i agree with that. old forums used to have interesting threads that would go on for a while and in depth. One thing I dont like about this, idk what this is called, new generation of message board?, is that past 3 or 4 comments deep everything dies and past like 12 hours commenting dies. it actually feels a lot more shallow

I suspect that may be a result of those boards being more specifically focused on a particular topic. But, that's just a hunch, not something I can prove.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

#119
post #91
post #61

I'm pretty sure upvoting a comment is seen as a means to notify someone on HN. Maybe it's only in my head but that's how I see it.

There's nothing in the HN UI that I've yet noticed that shows when a comment is upvoted (or downvoted) beyond the fake internet points counter next to my username Up/down votes are irrelevant, though, in this context: if I've asked a question, I shouldn't have to go hunting to find out if people replied (or if they've asked something back, etc)

I don't write so many comments so I can always keep track of everything. Also, HN creates contextual threads for comments, the ones involving you, and I haven't had any bad UX to report so far. The system in its current form works.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

#120
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's not If you ask a question, and I happen to see it a couple days later and can answer it, why would you not want to see said answer?

An edge case like that isn't really the point. I mean, what percentage of "responses to old comments" fall into that bucket? My guess is that it's a very small percentage. Weighed against the "propagating / encouraging low-value flame wars" possibility, I absolutely consider the lack of such notifications to a Good Thing. Especially considering somebody who's particularly motivated to find delayed answers to specific…

This isn't an "edge case"

This is the normal case for commenting :: if someone replies, it shouldn't be difficult to find that out

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