Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If requirements were fulfilled, but you aren't happy with the result, then your requirements were wrong. Isn't it possible for a dev to fulfill requirements but still deliver a bad result as measured by subjective (but important) things such as code smells, bloat, crappy algorithmic logic, and so on? Or do you think managers need to spec things out in such strenuous detail that surprises (but also, to an extent, au…
You're talking about completely different thing than what OP was talking about. It's about developer having a different vision than you. You either need to accept that someone sees the problem differently than you and accept their solution, or if it is something important to you, you need to get better at explaining your vision. Anyway, back to your requirements, as you pointed those requirements are subjective. If t…
Ask HN: What was the biggest leadership challenge of your career?
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Re: Ask HN: What was the biggest leadership challenge of your career?
#112I was CTO of a company under investigation for both securities fraud and some other misdeeds. The CEO was definitely sketchy. When I tried to talk (many times) about the pressure and stress I was feeling he would alternate between throwing chairs (seriously!) and offering me various pills and alcohol. I couldn’t even quit because then I would have to foot all my own legal bills which would have bankrupted me. I was s…
> and truth be told I wasn’t exactly a saint either lmao. rich people are hilarious. this isn't a "leadership challenge." this is you almost facing the consequences of your actions and then getting out of it and being successful despite the fact that you (by your own admission) were probably guilty. too bad you weren't caught -- then you may have actually learned something.
Re: Ask HN: What was the biggest leadership challenge of your career?
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
> When people don't deliver what you expected, it's because you did a shitty job of communicating it to them. Why is this necessarily the fault of the manager's communication skills? Sometimes the person sucks beyond repair and needs to be fired. If you have a competent person who didn't deliver what you expected, then yes, it's probably the fault of the manager's communication. Not so for the lower-end of that compe…
If requirements were provided and person didn't fulfill them, they did a bad job. If requirements were fulfilled, but you aren't happy with the result, then you did a bad job.
Requirements covers a VAST range of different garbage that can be provided to someone under the guise of letting them get on with it.
Re: Ask HN: What was the biggest leadership challenge of your career?
#114Quitting my last job. My emoloyer comitted misuse of public funds in my last project through kickback fraud, despite me warning them to not try to pull this off in my projects. Thing is, that I never wanted to do anything illegal at work because I don't want anyone to have leverage over me and blackmail me into doing more unethical things. It only afterwards turned out to be a challenge. I didn't have an alternative…
What happened after that? If I can ask
Re: Ask HN: What was the biggest leadership challenge of your career?
#115I accepted a remote lead position at a startup. Interviews had gone great. I gave my notice at my soon-to-be old employer and made the transition. Along comes my first day and surprisingly, it’s mostly radio silence. CTO, my boss, doesn’t respond to my emails, doesn’t answer the phone. I call the CEO and he promises to sort it out. Fast forward a week or two later, something is obviously up. Long story short, the boa…
It can be that hard to find remote jobs? (I never tried.)
Can I ask how much work experience (eg years) did you have at the time?
I'm glad you could get away from there eventually. (Hmm you found another remote job?)
Re: Ask HN: What was the biggest leadership challenge of your career?
#116I joined the company as a dev and quickly got promotes to a PO/Teamlead position. To be honest, it was everything I could have wished for, and I felt very lucky - fantastic colleagues, exciting product, cool tech, modern ways if working, and the team I would lead had some fantastic individuals and a positive attitude.
I was assigned to a newly formed team in charge of a new revenue opportunity. The project was the CEO’s little baby, so I was a bit nervous of how his involvement would be, but so far there were no red flags. I had heard some comments from colleagues about him - he seemed to come up in conversations a lot - but nothing major, I thought.
This was my first management role and I felt completely overwhelmed. I got a large amount of responsibility on top of still doing my previous dev work. Managing felt a lot like what I imagine being a preschool teacher is like. Coming in with grand ideas of wanting to help the team be the best it can, having high ambitions... and then drowning in the sheer practicalities. Misunderstandings, people with different wills, tantrums, power struggles... I wanted to be an empathic and supportive team lead, but my manager colleagues who were much more direct and strict seemed to be moving along and through conflicts faster (not true, I learned later). I was proud of always putting the welfare of my team first. Later a member would tell me he decided to decline a move to another team for that reason, so at least I did something right.
But instead of focusing on learning to become a good manager, problems with the CEO started right off the bat. I went on a short vacation, during which he had summoned my team, upset and wondered what the hell is going on, ordered them to do the exact opposite of what I had tasked them to, then grabbed me on my first day back to berate me and tell me I should listen to him because he knows better than me.
His behaviour came in waves. If things appeared to be going well, he was your best friend and generally hands-off. The moment he smelled what he perceived to be trouble, problems began. Eventually I ended up permanently on his bad side due to a long series of drama.
This is the point I learned the company had hired a leadership coach who spent 99% of his time helping managers deal with the CEO and his antics. Up until this point I had thought I was getting on his bad side due to my behaviour or results. Now I was slowly starting to realize that everyone who reported to him had a similar experience.
I started to have a feeling of constant dread. He was unpredictable and could react suddenly to anything in any manner, often with ferocity. There were groups of people spending significant time trying to control his outbursts. He would usually be apologetic after, and claim to have learned a lesson, but the next day it would be back to the same old.
Things started to take a toll on my personal life. I was drained, agitated and exhausted from work, and brought those emotions home. I had to see a therapist. We also had our first child around this time. Then I started getting weekend calls. The worst was a sunday morning call from him starting with ”I just had a great idea”. The great idea was to throw my last two weeks of planning in the trash, smash my team together with another team, have both team leads lead the team together (which naturally lead to an instant power struggle) and add some unrealistic expectations to the mix. Funnily, I was still telling myself that perhaps this was normal.
Then we had a salary discussion. When I joined I had been promised a percentage raise after the first year, otherwise I would have taken another offer at the time. He told me that despite getting good feedback, I am actually performing bad (I asked him to back it up with statistics which I knew existed - he answered that I should just trust him because he knows better) and could not give me the raise. I didn’t really care about the money, but at this point I felt that, if I can’t even trust him on his word, it’s impossible for me to work for him. He lied as usual when challenged and claimed he had never promised the raise, except this time I had written proof on the promise and asked him to honor it.
He reacted about as well as could be expected. Anger and tantrums. Incoumd tell he wanted to fire me on the spot. Since that’s not possible here, he demoted me and sent a multi-paragraph rant email to multiple parties explaining how we had both agreed that if i’m not the best employee in the company in two months that I would cease to be employeed. After I replied that we had not agreed to that, I was offerer a moderately-generous exit package. I took it without hesitation.
An hour after taking the offer, a colleage stopped me in the corridor and asked ”What happened, did you get some good news? You seem a lot calmer than usual.” I realized it was true - all my anxiety was gone. I felt relief.
Don’t let yourself get treated badly chasing a career. I’m back in a dev position elsewhere and couldn’t be happier.
Re: Ask HN: What was the biggest leadership challenge of your career?
#117Having an unstable teammate on a project I led. Long story short, they: (a) saw things in terms of them being persecuted, and took critique of their work or approach deeply personally (b) tended to see things as us vs them, and not a two-way street, where both sides bore responsibility. And that sometimes crappy things happen with no malace. (c) resented other's success at the company, and thought that the 'successfu…
Just so you know, there's a gendered pronoun at the end of point (d). Since it looks like you were trying to avoid this, I figured I would let you know so you can excise it if you wish
Re: Ask HN: What was the biggest leadership challenge of your career?
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the "Big five personality traits" model, you have: 1. Openness to experience (inventive/curious vs. consistent/cautious) 2. Conscientiousness (efficient/organized vs. extravagant/careless) 3. Extraversion (outgoing/energetic vs. solitary/reserved) 4. Agreeableness (friendly/compassionate vs. critical/rational) 5. Neuroticism (sensitive/nervous vs. resilient/confident) Excessive neuroticism (aka emotional instabili…
Wow, I feel like I fit both sides of 4 out of the 5 categories depending on the context.
Re: Ask HN: What was the biggest leadership challenge of your career?
#119Learning to let my go of my ego and trust... Understanding that delegating tasks, instead of doing them myself, was of the utmost importance the more people I managed... especially, greenfield work. Literally: do not steal the fun. This also means inherently trusting people, and if you can't do that you shouldn't be working with them. two important notes about that: 1. If you just thought of someone you can't trust i…
Eh, that describes exactly my last job (which wasn't bad, I liked my coworkers, but my last manager made it a horrible experience), worst job I had so far. He wasn't bad as an engineer, but he had this crazy OCD to a point that even keys in YAML file should be ordered alphabetically. He had his vision how things should be, and how he would implement them. First, he was not happy that my solutions were done differentl…
Eh, I am guilty of that (for myself, I don't run around other people's code).
I don't know if it's OCD but I clearly remember the moment I decided to order keys (in yaml, json, etc.): after a debugging session where I lost time because I was scanning whole lists with my eyes, looking for a particular key and thought "it'd be easier if it was ordered according to alphabet and not domains of concern".
Wasn't there a debate/online conversation about `girly code` a decade ago ? About tabs, alignment, etc ? Thank you prettier :).
Re: Ask HN: What was the biggest leadership challenge of your career?
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and truth be told I wasn’t exactly a saint either lmao. rich people are hilarious. this isn't a "leadership challenge." this is you almost facing the consequences of your actions and then getting out of it and being successful despite the fact that you (by your own admission) were probably guilty. too bad you weren't caught -- then you may have actually learned something.
Wow. Looking to hate on the first thing because they're successful.. confirm your twisted worldview that success is robbery to make your feel better how you haven't made it. Nice try...