I occasionally do copyright searches for owners of images (it's a thing in online groups where "do not post images without permission" is a thing)
pinterest is full black hat when it comes to image ownership. It owns nothing it has on its site and without an account, there's no way to trace ownership using its links. And usually there's so many duplicates of the same images (without credit) that it swamps all search results.
Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?
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Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does your think tank come up with any ideas on how to keep companies like Pinterest from peeing in the pool so to speak? They made it impossible to find DIY craft stuff that I used to search for, and I can’t imagine it’s the only site doing it.
We are pursuing ideas that we think will increase competition in the search engine market. Our main focus right now is making Google’s index of the web available for use by competitors, since no one other than Google is really allowed to crawl the web. If people were allowed to use the index to build what they want, then you or somebody else would be able to build a search engine that avoids the Pinterest cruft and w…
> making Google’s index of the web available for use by competitors
That does seem like a good idea since it amounts essentially to a database of stuff that Google does not own (by construction) and is of public utility.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?
#113I do not know whether Google gives Pinterest preferential treatment. That said, I'd like to know: What are you searching? Results will be different depending on if you're searching "cute bedroom ideas" or "epistemology in pre-Socratic Greece."
Give it a few days and this page will be the #1 hit for "pre-Socratic bedroom ideas"
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Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just do -pinterest in your search to filter
It would be great if Google had a little "hide this domain for me permanently" next to every search result. Not only would it improve that user's own search results, it's a very strong signal that other users also might not like it, for de-ranking purposes.
They used to offer that functionality but removed it years ago.
I've been using this userscript since then. https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/1682-google-hit-hider-by-d...
It might be called Google Hit Hider by Domain but the author has expanded it to cover most major search engines over the years.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
And what if you do respect it but follow Googlebot rules?
Applebot was able to get away with doing exactly this but I imagine that's because it's Apple and websites knew that Apple was about to send them enough traffic via Apple News to make it worth their while. I don't know if other search engine operators have tried this but I would imagine they would get caught by rate limiters set for non Google IP's and then they would be blocked.
Still, you keep saying all that as if most websites even notice that they're being crawled, and that their operators are very aware exactly when by whom they're crawled. Like as if the admin gets a notification every time a crawler comes by or something, with precise details about it. I don't think it's nearly as serious as you're trying to make it look.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?
#116Pintrest has the worst UI/UX of any website. It is a cancer of the internet, contributes nothing and allows re-aggregation and front-running in Google search as a feature. It baffles me why people use this piece of shit.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
We are pursuing ideas that we think will increase competition in the search engine market. Our main focus right now is making Google’s index of the web available for use by competitors, since no one other than Google is really allowed to crawl the web. If people were allowed to use the index to build what they want, then you or somebody else would be able to build a search engine that avoids the Pinterest cruft and w…
> making Google’s index of the web available for use by competitors That does seem like a good idea since it amounts essentially to a database of stuff that Google does not own (by construction) and is of public utility.
Exactly. Everybody always talks about turning tech companies into public utilities without really explaining what the utility would be. A public index of the web would be an amazing utility for many of the reasons in this thread and would spur on a ton of new innovation and businesses.
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Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google should be asking from a product perspective if they are providing the search results the user is most likely seeking. I seriously doubt that most pinterest results are what users are seeking. As such, Google probably should consider changes to their algorithm to compensate (cat and mouse) for pinterest's gaming. That is assuming how pinterest does it is not against any google rules... because if it were agains…
Just do -pinterest in your search to filter
I just wanted to mention that excluding strings has been broken for me off-and-on over the last month at least.
Not directly relevant to anything except how lame google has become.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?
#119google.*##.g:has(a[href*=".pinterest."]) google.*##a[href*=".pinterest."]:nth-ancestor(1) Add to uBlock Origin. in the "My Filters" tab. This will completely block pinterest
extension for firefox that puts "block thisdomain" under thre results: https://github.com/wildskyf/personal-blocklist
Re: Ask HN: Why does Pinterest dominate Google text search results?
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Applebot was able to get away with doing exactly this but I imagine that's because it's Apple and websites knew that Apple was about to send them enough traffic via Apple News to make it worth their while. I don't know if other search engine operators have tried this but I would imagine they would get caught by rate limiters set for non Google IP's and then they would be blocked.
Still, you keep saying all that as if most websites even notice that they're being crawled, and that their operators are very aware exactly when by whom they're crawled. Like as if the admin gets a notification every time a crawler comes by or something, with precise details about it. I don't think it's nearly as serious as you're trying to make it look.
I've been a part of a team that operated a large website and I've been paged before because of the issues that somebody was causing because it was being crawled too much. Many people in the web operations field have had the same experience. Generally speaking, the larger the website, the more sensitive they are about who is crawling and why.