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Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by rvz » Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:18 PM UTC

BjoernKW wrote: post #12

The BBC has a wide range of podcasts (available internationally), including ones about geopolitics and science. Due to the nature of the medium and the BBC's generally more serious and composed disposition these podcasts tend to be about actually relevant information rather than the outrage-inducing, largely irrelevant rubbish commonly fed by "Now ... this" media.

If you are to be looking at new sources from the BBC, just stick to BBC World News. At its best, I find that the quality of the online sections and articles from the BBC are beyond woeful and extremely cringe-worthy everytime I dare to visit and read from the site or watch their news channel.

You'd expect that having the privilege of a royal charter they have a duty to be fair, impartial and balanced. But as shown in recent events and previous scandals, they are becoming a questionable source and still can't help giving coverage towards Twitter spats that isn't worth paying a TV license for.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by allard » Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:22 PM UTC

an interesting chart on media bias now at version 5.1

https://www.adfontesmedia.com

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by David_R » Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:24 PM UTC

BjoernKW wrote: post #12

The BBC has a wide range of podcasts (available internationally), including ones about geopolitics and science. Due to the nature of the medium and the BBC's generally more serious and composed disposition these podcasts tend to be about actually relevant information rather than the outrage-inducing, largely irrelevant rubbish commonly fed by "Now ... this" media.

The BBC also has a useful smartphone app. Each day it offers just a few items related to the US; can scan through them in a couple of minutes; seem free of any American left/right tilt.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by rvz » Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:31 PM UTC

jayflux wrote: post #53

nannal wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd advise steering clear of anything related to UK politics published by the BBC. There's been a clear pro-right trend for a number of years evident most clearly during the most recent election and Scotland's independence referendum of 2014.

> There's been a clear pro-right trend for a number of years Then why has there been more complaints from the right than the left this year about the BBC? https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/31/bbc-election-c...

> ...from the right than the left this year about the BBC?

You do realize that the single claim that you're citing as evidence for the BBC being biased towards the right is from a publisher that is left-leaning?

That's like asking Trump if CNN is "fake news" and citing his only opinion as evidence that CNN is biased against him which is hardly credible.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by threatofrain » Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:32 PM UTC

chrisweekly wrote: post #91

highhedgehog wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about Wall Street Journal?

conservative bias

Financial establishment kind of conservative, not what many would think of American conservatism in general.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by uncle_j » Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:33 PM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #104

chrisseaton wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Subjecting everyone except Johnson to interview by Andrew Neil The BBC doesn’t have the power to subject people to interview by force. If he declines an interview which he is not obligated to give what should they have done?

Either: (a) not announce "interviewing all the leaders" until all the leaders were confirmed. This could be a competence rather than a bias issue; wasn't it Fyre Festival who were announcing acts who they hadn't booked to perform? (b) empty-chair him (c) given that Gove and Stanley Johnson (who has no formal position in the party, he's just Johnson's father and now a minor celebrity) turned up to protest outside, the…

I am not in the UK Conservative Party but I actually know a few people who are and I hear enough of what going on in the party. I don't particularly like the conservative party however I signed up for account because of egregiously wrong you are.

a) Various leaders agreed to go on a show. Boris Johnson doesn't have to go on the BBC and the BBC can interview who they wish. Andrew Neil likes to make fools of people on his show. He has done it to many politicians of all colours. It is really just a higher brow version of "Ben Shapiro defeats Liberals with facts and logic". Jeremy Corbyn was stupid enough to go on there and get himself shafted by Neil.

b and c) Gove and Stanley Johnson was sent by their party to the debate. Channel 4 (which is mostly publicly funded which most people don't know) did the whole ice sculpture as a stunt. They already bought the sculpture. The

As for the BBC having a "right wing bias". Nothing can be further from the truth. You can go on the website yourself and there are thousands of stories talking about typically left wing talking points.

I am actually building daily news site analysis tool by cobbling together some sources. I am using some fairly simple word analysis techniques (most of the effort is scraping the data from these sites and deciding what constitutes a real news story) and most of the language on the BBC and the Guardian are similar. I suspect that most of them just copy and paste stories tbh.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by pio42 » Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:46 PM UTC

I really like the french newspaper "Le Monde Diplomatique". https://mondediplo.com/

It has an english version.

I'm actually reading it in french. It's a well documented monthly newspaper. Articles aren't here to create some bullshit buzz, but deep articles on many subjects mostly politic, economic, geo politics but ther topics are covered (internet, healthcare, ...)

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by pknerd » Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:49 PM UTC

I don't scan HN as religiously as I used to do it in the past. I prefer to check Ask HN most of the time as there are more useful threads in it than the main page.

To the original question, I explore Reddit subs of my choice.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by Patatarte » Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:56 PM UTC

ljw1001 wrote: post #70

Trying to understand politics by watching the Web stream go flowing by is pointless. You need high-quality, big picture stuff that requires effort to produce and consume. In the US, the NYTimes and the Washington Post are the best sources. To ensure you're exposure is 'fair and balanced' I would add the Economist for a more conservative, but not xenophobic or straight-up nonsensical viewpoint. It has the nice additio…

But it’s heavily lefty sided and lacks perspective.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by aembleton » Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:58 PM UTC

tajd wrote: post #67

wastedhours wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is it sad to admit to BBC satirical news programmes I for years got all of my main news from HIGNFY, Mock the Week and Private Eye. I got most of the nuance, without the outrage. Shame we don't have anything in the UK like The Daily Show, otherwise I probably wouldn't frequent any news sources other than those that skewer it all.

May I add "Dead Ringers" and "The Now Show" to the list of (BBC) satirical news shows. These shows absolutely nail it for me.

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