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Re: Ask HN: Amazon software engineers, how is the work culture now?

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I think he is trolling people with the suicide talk.

Sounded like a dark, tongue-in-cheek response to the "never work for amazon" advice. Like, his only other option is death according to HN commenters, since the only place he got an offer from was amazon. Or so I hope...

> tongue-in-cheek response

I think you are correct.

Re: Ask HN: Amazon software engineers, how is the work culture now?

#112

I interned at Amazon last year in the Alexa org (non-frontline team in ML). My team was rarely in the office before 10:30 or after 6, even during crunch time (we launched our feature during my internship) but i did see code review responses at odd hours sometimes. I enjoyed the project a bunch, and while my coworkers werent the most social bunch they were pretty smart and effective. I did pretty well and exceeded man…

This guy is obviously some sort of satirical troll. Stop feeding it.

Re: Ask HN: Amazon software engineers, how is the work culture now?

#113

Thanks to linked in, I saw who was on a 1st level connection with the ex-director there who was arrested for running ads for prostitutes in Bellevue. Those 1st level contacts are still there and in higher positions now. Being 1st level on linkedin doesn't mean they are the same character or were part of the crime, but they are all in management positions. I emailed some women that still worked there and told them the…

Don't harass those women.

Re: Ask HN: Amazon software engineers, how is the work culture now?

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post #29

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Performance improvement plan. Basically a chance to get your act together before they fire you.

Some would argue it's more of a "start looking for a new job, we're about to fire you" warning.

Or just another way for a manager to prevent you from changing your team or not give hike.

Re: Ask HN: Amazon software engineers, how is the work culture now?

#115

I interned at Amazon last year in the Alexa org (non-frontline team in ML). My team was rarely in the office before 10:30 or after 6, even during crunch time (we launched our feature during my internship) but i did see code review responses at odd hours sometimes. I enjoyed the project a bunch, and while my coworkers werent the most social bunch they were pretty smart and effective. I did pretty well and exceeded man…

This guy is obviously some sort of satirical troll. Stop feeding it.

How are you so certain?

Re: Ask HN: Amazon software engineers, how is the work culture now?

#116
We lost "anytime feedback" and end of year reviews changed dramatically. This is a horrible loss.

Previously, the anytime feedback tool had you, at any time, give anyone else in the company feedback (positive and negative) in the form of "Situation, Behavior, Impact". What happened, how did the person react, how did it impact me. It went to the person's manager and into a record somewhere. At the end of every year, you were asked to give additional anytime feedback to you entire team and anyone who asked for it. Managers read through all that feedback, summarized and gave you a full year end review that was the source of a lot of my personal growth.

The NYT referred to this as "ratting out your coworkers", so now that's gone.

Instead, there's a short, stupid and less-than-anonymous version that takes about 5 minutes and is done just once per year. Your manager doesn't read any of that feedback before they give you your year end review and pay changes, but they do give you a verbatim copy of what was said- you can figure out who said what pretty easily.

The problem was that 1% of the managers were sociopaths who abused their power. The response was to increase their power.

But I'm still here, for some reason.

Edit: no, let's be fair here. I'm still here because I like what I do. I like the problem space, and I like the people I work with.

Re: Ask HN: Amazon software engineers, how is the work culture now?

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No change since the NYT article. Amazon only changes things when it has to, and only in a lip-service kind of way. There was a flurry of discussion and proposals when the article was published, but it's all died down and we're back to where we were beforehand. Compensation, culture, and perks are infinitely better at Google, Facebook, Lyft, Uber, etc. All of them start vesting your stock monthly after 1 year, whereas…

I'm curious, does this apply to all of Amazon globally? I was considering Amazon Dublin and would be interested to hear what it's like there.

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Re: Ask HN: Amazon software engineers, how is the work culture now?

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In my team and all the orgs under my manager's manager is pretty chill. We are a team out of India. In India the comp is really high compared to other Indian companies. The vesting cycle is same as US though. I have heard about the bad culture in US. I have never seen anyone cry or even stressed. We don't have many crunch days.

TBH Amazon Indian org is known (from the Seattle folks I spoke to) for being sub-par filled with employees from service companies, so no surprises there.

On the contrary I think the frugality strategy has lead to hiring the top talent in India and not in the US. Therefore the pay here is higher compared to the bigger companies (not MNCs but product as well), I am from an Indian unicorn startup and the pay was very competitive. The US opinion of any Indians IT worker seems to be the same, that is that we are service oriented workers who don't code, therefore I'd take it with a grain of salt on what they say.

But yeah, the talent here is good since hiring talent is cheaper here compared to US. If you have to pay 170k$ to hire the best in US then in India you'll be able to hire the best at 50 LPA which is about 70k$.

I have been part of many interview panels and they haven't been any easy interviews as such.

Re: Ask HN: Amazon software engineers, how is the work culture now?

#119
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Performance improvement plan. Basically a chance to get your act together before they fire you.

Some would argue it's more of a "start looking for a new job, we're about to fire you" warning.

I've known people who've survived pips. Usually it's because their manager was bad and wanted more brown nosing. Happens now and then at the L6 manager level.

Re: Ask HN: Amazon software engineers, how is the work culture now?

#120

I interned at Amazon last year in the Alexa org (non-frontline team in ML). My team was rarely in the office before 10:30 or after 6, even during crunch time (we launched our feature during my internship) but i did see code review responses at odd hours sometimes. I enjoyed the project a bunch, and while my coworkers werent the most social bunch they were pretty smart and effective. I did pretty well and exceeded man…

No hiring manager looking at resumes is going to put any stock into whether it says Google, Amazon or FB, or what school you went to. They will care what you worked on. If you bring with you this completely unjustified view that your coworkers are worse, it will show, no one will want to work with you, and you aren't going to get to work on anything interesting. Your attitude is extremely concerning, you have a lot t…

> No hiring manager looking at resumes is going to put any stock into whether it says Google, Amazon or FB, or what school you went to.

Even if the hiring manager won't, it's a fairly safe bet that the filtering stages prior to it landing on a manager's desk will be looking at those things. Have you never been approached by a recruiter talking to you about how excited they are about "the Netflix guy" or the "Stanford woman"?

At the lower information density stages in the hiring pipeline, broad generalizations are still important.

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