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Re: Ask HN: Marriage

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OK, putting aside that this is clearly not the best place to ask for marriage advice...

Have you compared the "statistics" you gathered about (male) (hugely rich) founders marriage success ages to the general pool of marriages?

I'm pretty sure I read that more marriages 25.

Re: Ask HN: Marriage

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That's an interesting perspective. What you're saying is that marriage is a mode of communication for that one sentiment. Are there other modes of communicating the same sentiment? (an epic poem, breaking into heartfelt song, getting tattoos,...) Are they all equivalent? Does choosing to not express it by marriage necessarily imply that one is not willing to express it at all?

It doesn't just communicate it to your partner, but to society. Getting married is a ritualized promise that is done before one's community of family and friends. I think saying the vows to your partner, in front of your family and friends, is markedly different than, say, writing a poem and getting tattoos. I suppose marriage is what you make of it. I consider being married to be a different state than not being mar…

As a life long marriage skeptic - who recently got married - I can tell you, being married is different than any other situation.

I've always been a "it's just a piece of paper, you don't need it to signify real commitment" -- but I was wrong. I was surprised, myself.

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Tax breaks for being married? Quite the contrary. You pay additional taxes if you marry. Do the math for single vs married tax rates at various income levels. Also, if you file as married (jointly or separately) if one person itemizes the other must itemize, or vice versa w/ the standard deduction. One gets big tax breaks for owing money to a bank for a mortgage loan or for having children, but not simply for being m…

> You pay additional taxes if you marry. Do the math for single vs married tax rates at various income levels. If you do the math you actually find that married folk pay less US federal income taxes in certain situations and more in others. (CA is the same - I don't know about other states) The result depends on the distribution of income between the two people If both people make roughly the same amount of money, be…

Good point... i'd only done the math for both people earning roughly comparable amounts.

Re: Ask HN: Marriage

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From talking to a lot of married couples it seems as if marriage takes a lot of work and a lot of self-sacrifice. Perhaps the maturity of age has something to do with the successful marriages being those that where entered into later.

Relationships take a lot of work and a lot of self-sacrifice, regardless of whether you are married or not, I'd say.

I agree with that. I think it's a continuum. Most other relationships don't have the expectation that he should be life-long, day in and day out things. That added constraint ups the anty on the difficulty a bit I think.

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If only it were that easy. Pre-nuptial agreements are routinely invalidated by judges at the precise moment one needs them to be enforced.

That's because you need two more things besides just a pre-nup: A POST-nup and $15k to the woman to go find her own lawyer to work through the paperwork so she can't claim ignorance. With that you are pretty safe. As an aside, I know a guy who had his father own the deed to his house and paid "rent" to him. When the wife cheated on him and left/was kicked out she couldn't get much because most of his assets were in h…

Interesting, paying rent to his father...

Other than the possibility where that could be interpreted as not trusting your partner, that sounds like a great idea from a "CYA" perspective.

Of course, it could only really work if the relationship you have with your father is very solid. You wouldn't want him kicking you out of "your" house because of some arbitrary conflict.

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you can't really write a business plan for a startup, either. ;-)

I'm wanting to make some lewd joke about iterating rapidly and keeping a keen eye on your key metrics, but I've been told it's not the done thing around here. If I tried really hard, I'm sure I could work out an exit/IPO into it too.

Watch out for premature liquidation.

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>I think that what women want is to raise a child with a partner. I really think you're being unrealistic if you think women don't care about getting married before having children with someone. You can place whatever value judgments you like on the reasons for that, but to say it isn't the case isn't realistic.

Please don't generalise women - some of us really don't care. (I'm 15 weeks pregnant, I have no intentions of getting married.)

Sorry if my wording wasn't clear - I interpreted my comment's parent as a generalization, actually. I should have said something like:

>I really think you're being unrealistic if you think most women don't care about getting married before having children with someone

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http://www.divorcerate.org/ has the following for men: age rate So if you are just playing the numbers, wait until your late 20's at least. But please, don't play the numbers. As someone already said, don't try to plan love.

Those statistics are totally the wrong ones to look at. It's "Age at marriage for those who divorce in America". You want "Divorce rate by age at marriage".

And presumably you want that for only first marriages.
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