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Re: Ask HN: I've had some software developed, now the coder is holding me for ransom.

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post #94

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He's not a really good coder, really good programmers don't work for peanuts. Good programmers in America make anywhere from 6k to 10k a month, what exactly do you think you're going to get for 2k? For the price you're offering, you won't find any good programmers that'll work for you, you'll only find hacks who think they can and are more than willing to take your money while learning. If you think you can spend 2k…

One programmer I know was making $16k per month, and that was salary. People who assume more of the risk tend to make more than that.

That's nearly 200k a year, that's certainly not typical. What was his specialty?

Re: Ask HN: I've had some software developed, now the coder is holding me for ransom.

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One programmer I know was making $16k per month, and that was salary. People who assume more of the risk tend to make more than that.

That's nearly 200k a year, that's certainly not typical. What was his specialty?

No, it's not typical for programmers as a whole, but it's typical of his specialty, which is quantitative market analysis. He quit to do a Web 2.0 startup for a lot more money.

Re: Ask HN: I've had some software developed, now the coder is holding me for ransom.

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post #33

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I appreciate that coding software is an iterative process. But this software was planned out very clearly, there were some minor changes, but nothing big. Im not sure why 10 percent doesn't seem like a good deal for him, he quoted me 2500 dollars, which is all he should get. Out of desperation and a desire to get the project moving and actually get some results, I offered him 10 percent when it was several months lat…

Your biggest problem is that having offered him a stake in the project, you've created a situation in which he now has a reasonable right to control over the way the source code is deployed. I'd assume your programmer set up server authentication to get visibility into the number of sales. If I was working in return for a percentage of sales I would expect a way to independently verify sales figures as well. That is…

This approach lets me figure out what their hourly take-home is when all is said and done.

What, precisely, is your "job title"?

Very very few can truly afford to "outsource" design. When you start adding metrics, time worked, etc. it's hubris. Your post started off OK but ended up badly.

When you use the words "take-home" in the same sentence as the word "hourly", you're violating some serious syntax.

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