Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: How are you all staying sane?

news.ycombinator.com

101–110 of 175 posts

Re: Ask HN: How are you all staying sane?

#102
AI: I use it - i can keep multiple things going in parallel which seems to work well with my ADHD.

Foreign BS: I worry a bit about my draft age kids, worry about donald rumsfeld's ghost making us go back to nation building again.

Enshitification: well, I've thrown my ios26 powered phone a few times, its a constant source of ire. I long for something better to come along.

overall, I just play with my dogs, lift heavy things, and just keep my head down. Last night the wife broke the tractor and I had to improvise a fix - which entailed using the MIG welder. I went to sleep happy.

Re: Ask HN: How are you all staying sane?

#103
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “anthropogenic global warming thing was always just wealth extraction by elites. They cranked up at least three generations scaring them half to death and making them crazy and depressed and now, oh ... it was nothing, we need more power for AI data centers” This kind of conspiracy-driven anti-science crankery is part of the problem. The science behind anthropogenic global warming hasn’t changed. Since you’re clear…

[flagged]

I don't hate you. But I object to your unwillingness to understand science, and your willingness to jump to conclusions that aren't supported by evidence.

Wilful ignorance like that is exactly what leads to many of the kinds of issues OP is raising.

Re: Ask HN: How are you all staying sane?

#104

I am astounded by how many comments recommend completely withdrawing from worldly matters. While I can understand why this may seem like a smart move, it cannot be the right choice ethically (think of Kant’s categorical imperative). Of course, you cannot directly influence world politics. But choosing a small area where you can make something better—anything that positively affects your fellow human beings—seems to m…

Not watching/reading "news" or engaging in mass or social media is not withdrawal.

Rather it is doing that which opens the space in your mind to be able to "choose a small area where you can make something better".

As long as you are on a hamster wheel of "Trump said this" "Trump said that" you can't make anything better in your life, nor be of much service to anyone else.

Re: Ask HN: How are you all staying sane?

#105

>AI I'm apathetic. It's there, it's a tool. >international conflicts I am fortunate enough to not live in the countries mentioned. I am close to Ukraine so this one is sort-of important to me in terms that I don't want Russia to win, but at the same time there's no point in following the news closely. If something big happens I will most definitively hear about it whether I'd like it or not. >The US / Europe Nothing…

> Always sucked. If you don't believe me feel free to go back to any underpowered machine of your choice and use it as a daily driver for a while.

No, tech didn't always suck. Sure, it was slower hardware. But it was empowering hardware. You owned it, it served only you, didn't spy on you and you could make it do whatever you desired.

Now it's mostly walled corporate gardens, you are the product, every gadget spies on you and pushes advertising at you. On some phones you can't even choose what to run. Every mouse click and finger movement is tracked and phoned to the corportate overlords.

So yes, tech mostly sucks now but it wasn't the case earlier.

Re: Ask HN: How are you all staying sane?

#106

I am astounded by how many comments recommend completely withdrawing from worldly matters. While I can understand why this may seem like a smart move, it cannot be the right choice ethically (think of Kant’s categorical imperative). Of course, you cannot directly influence world politics. But choosing a small area where you can make something better—anything that positively affects your fellow human beings—seems to m…

Not watching/reading "news" or engaging in mass or social media is not withdrawal. Rather it is doing that which opens the space in your mind to be able to "choose a small area where you can make something better". As long as you are on a hamster wheel of "Trump said this" "Trump said that" you can't make anything better in your life, nor be of much service to anyone else.

I'm all in on a healthy information diet. I was more concerned with comments like:

"I am apathetic to everything because there is nothing I can do about any of that. I am a speck of dust on a cog of a machine. There is absolutely no point of worrying about any of this."

Re: Ask HN: How are you all staying sane?

#107
Doing things I love:

  - Learning French and Japanese
  - Drinking tea and exploring tea culture
  - Playing Geoguessr (or in my case, Geotastic) to see different places in the world and just generally have a fun time figuring out languages, and unique traits of different countries and cultures
  - Reading and watching science fiction, lots and lots of it!
  - Coding. I really do love writing code.
  - Trying to improve my communication skills, and ability to break down and describe tasks. It relates to AI, but also relates to working and interacting with other humans. :)
  - Working
  - Hanging out with my family
  - Eating yummy food that I enjoy
  - Doing crosswords
  - Playing video games
  - Writing
  - Rock climbing, other physical activities like walking or doing a quick work out
  - Cleaning and fixing the home.
These don't solve all of the problems, but they make me feel better about my own life and that positivity helps me interact with others and think more positively about the world and all the cool things in it.

Re: Ask HN: How are you all staying sane?

#109
Depends what you mean by sane I guess...

I've been thinking (and worrying) about AI for decades so this last few years have been extremely hard for me. A lot of the stuff I worried about when deep neutral networks first began to work are now beginning to play out and if anything timelines are significantly shorter than I imagined they would be.

I've believed since around 2012 that the most likely way I'd die is from AI so this isn't new, but until around 2021 the error bars have always been quite large. In the last few years that error has rapidly compressed to the point at which I'd now very confidently bet we're all doomed (were there any point in me betting on that). I have few uncertainties left in the core trends of how things will progress from here, and the uncertainties that I do have are really more about how quickly doom will come and how bad the ending will be.

People who know me IRL kinda get why I'm freaking out right now because stuff I said that sounded insanely stupid before are actually now starting to materialise. But online I keep having to decide if I'm okay with sounding insane on this given how important it is and how concerned I am. I think the right thing to do is to sound insane and at least try to convince people we need to change course ASAP because this will not end well. Plus I'm having nightmares constantly at the moment so I'm really feeling the need to just express myself.

The number of serious risks we now face are almost endless and the probabilities that they occur are relatively high for the most part. Even most people with vested interests in the AI industry who are actively building these systems will give high single digits to low double digit odds that they're helping to build a technology that will kill us all lmao. And more concerningly most them are either lying or genuinely uneducated on why alignment is hard. The lunacy of the situation we're in is astounding.

So how am I staying sane? At this point I've more or less come to terms with what's coming. I'm just worried about those I love because I don't want them to suffer. It's frustrating so few seem to be thinking beyond risks like job losses right now and that's making me feel a bit insane at the moment tbh. I suspect people will catch up within the next 12-24 months.

As for the geopolitical uncertainty, that's always been a thing. 9/11 felt far more scary than anything that's happening today imo. The full scale invasion of Ukraine was significant, but hardly unexpected or even unprecedented.

Re: Ask HN: How are you all staying sane?

#110

I am astounded by how many comments recommend completely withdrawing from worldly matters. While I can understand why this may seem like a smart move, it cannot be the right choice ethically (think of Kant’s categorical imperative). Of course, you cannot directly influence world politics. But choosing a small area where you can make something better—anything that positively affects your fellow human beings—seems to m…

Is it because "the news" has changed beyond what we are designed to handle. It used to be just local gossip, and every now and then you'd hear about the king having a son or something. Eventually things progressed to where you would get newspapers and TV telling you what's happening in your country and maybe some global news, but you would only get that once a day and space was limited. Now it feels like news sites dredge up every bad thing happening everywhere at every minute and give it a big headline, trying to convince you it is important to know.
Post reply on HN