Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?" • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by firesteelrain » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 4:50 PM UTC

fouronnes3 wrote: post #52

simonw wrote: post #32

I built you this: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered It shows you the Hacker News page with ai and llm stories filtered out. You can change the exclusion terms and save your changes in localStorage. o3 knocked it out for me in a couple of minutes: https://chatgpt.com/share/68766f42-1ec8-8006-8187-406ef452e0... Initial prompt was: Build a web tool that displays the Hacker News homepage (fetched from…

Great example of the power of vibe coding. The first item is literally "Kiro: A new agentic IDE".

I like this because things can stay permanently filtered. Just not across devices. But that wasn't one of the original requirements.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by owebmaster » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 4:54 PM UTC

simonw wrote: post #99

owebmaster wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is an even more special kind of irony to see it failing as the top ranked story now is "Kiro: A new agentic IDE"

Already fixed https://github.com/simonw/tools/commit/f95b306be7b584f388256...

I know but the irony stands. We will get used to people getting embarrassed by AI results.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by jonas21 » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 4:56 PM UTC

Nobody is stopping you from creating your own HN clone with whatever rules and guidelines you want. I'd say go for it, and good luck! I'll stay here though.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by gnopgnip » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 4:56 PM UTC

In the last ycombinator batch, how many companies do not use AI in the core of their business?

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by bee_rider » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 4:58 PM UTC

Reubachi wrote: post #86

FroshKiller wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I have to stay up to date on AI stories just to know what buzzwords I should filter so I don't see AI stories?

Our brain decodes info based on context and extrapolation This submission we're commenting on could be about filtering out any data, not just AI stuff. Politics, crypto, AI etc. Or more minute like "Trump" "fracking" "bitcoin" etc. In any of these scenarios, with a tool designed to filter out content based on limited context, when would you ever be perfectly satisfied? would you like AI to help you build the perfect…

And certainly in our anti-politics filter we’d want to include the filtering of stories that promote the extreme political position that tech is somehow detached from politics! (Especially Silicon Valley startup tech that owes so much to the local politics and economy of California).

Which is to say, filtering politics out is absurd, one person’s extreme politics is another’s default view of the universe.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by bee_rider » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 5:00 PM UTC

owebmaster wrote: post #102

simonw wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Already fixed https://github.com/simonw/tools/commit/f95b306be7b584f388256...

I know but the irony stands. We will get used to people getting embarrassed by AI results.

This seems like exactly the type of problem human-written filtering systems fall into as well.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by kylehotchkiss » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 5:01 PM UTC

It's a hype cycle that will eventually die down. People here are usually pretty excited for new hype cycles they think they can make equity windfalls from. It's looking less likely that individuals will be making windfalls even as of this week with the new style of top-talent-acquihire acquisitions that seem to be increasing in number, so there's hope that HN goes back to generally technical :)

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by voisin » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 5:02 PM UTC

tolerance wrote: post #95

shepherdjerred wrote: post #84

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At a certain point it’s ironic

I think we're well past that stage. Using AI to escape AI. Does that count?

I think there’s another step here: Using AI to build tools that use AI to escape AI.

Eventually: using AI to build tools that use AI to escape AI using tools that use AI.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by furyofantares » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 5:03 PM UTC

FroshKiller wrote: post #71

raincole wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is literally an input box to put terms you want to exclude... The prompt asks for "filters out specific search terms", not "intelligently filter out any AI-related keywords." So yes, a good example of the power of vibe coding: the LLM built a tool according to the prompt.

So I have to stay up to date on AI stories just to know what buzzwords I should filter so I don't see AI stories?

Add the buzzword when you see a story you don't like. Or settle with it filtering 90% of the AI content and just don't click on whatever remains, I doubt you expect the top story to be interesting to you 100% of the time.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by authorfly » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 5:04 PM UTC

freedomben wrote: post #30

PaulHoule wrote: post #5

This post is turning up at least every other day. The last few times my reply was "AI is 4/30 or 5/30 of the front page, it's not such a big deal", but today it is 9/30. I am wondering what the ratio is for VC and angel dealflow in the valley right now. Hanging out on the "new" page and upvoting quality non-AI articles is an effective method of resistance.

> Hanging out on the "new" page and upvoting quality non-AI articles is an effective method of resistance. Fully agree, and I in fact am finding that I actually find more stories I'm interested in that way than looking at the front page. For whatever reason, I'm increasingly getting out of sync (interests-wise) with broader HN. So many stories I think are great HN material (and would have been a few years ago) langui…

As you age your interests and curiosity change, in ways you often don't see until later.

Very common in computer science contexts. Young undergraduates always pick up the new tech and make something that seems alien and wrong first. It's not even the masters students.

Possibly the same Kiro - Agentic IDE post would have been as interesting to you as the launch of Atom or something related to VS Code, etc.