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Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

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Post by Gud »

Frankly, I grew up in the last years of the cold war and remember the collapse of the Soviet Union and the eventual coup attempts vividly.

It was ingrained in my memory that there is a large chance of nuclear warfare in mainland Europe. But I witnessed how Europe fairly quickly tbh dismantled its self defence capabilities by incompetent leadership.

At the same time, Russia has attacked multiple of its neighbours over the years, and the USA has started multiple fraudulent wars to sustain its hegemony.

I guess I’m jaded?

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

#102

Post by workflowing »

atlasduo wrote: post #9

Because a lot of people are still in denial, not believing this is a plausible scenario, just like they were in denial that a large war might break out in eastern Europe "because we don't really do wars anymore". Worst part is, apparently, lots of politicians at the wheel also believe "it won't come to this". Reality is going to hit like a truck.

This. But reality will hit rather like a missile.

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

#103

Post by workflowing »

gadders wrote: post #37
peepeepoopoo89 wrote: post #19

No, because I voted for Trump. Europe gets to take responsibility for the wars they start and escalate now. Not my problem.

I think Trump has the best chance of ending the war, but I don't think America and the CIA gets to dodge responsibility for helping to start it.

Huh? That's some advanced reasoning there!

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

#104

Post by lcall »

Times can be difficult but we can have peace, practical guidance, and help. Noah warned people, and prophets warn and guide today (the same God, had prophets then, has them now).

More at my web site (in profile, no sales and low stylistic ambition), if you click on "Things I want to say" (about 1/2-way down), then "On peace amid commotion" (also about 1/2-way down), then skim that page and click at least the last link. Then read the entire page and click the links that seem most interesting.

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

#105

Post by red-iron-pine »

skwee357 wrote: post #82
acdha wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The thing is, I no longer trust any news source. They all exist to serve their agenda, while rarely providing the real picture. So there is no way for me, as a regular citizen, to truly know what happens in the world or a particular regional conflict. This is what the authoritarians want. It’s not actually hard to understand the major trends are in the world, with accurate information available, but that’s bad for…

I find statement like "there is objective truth" - dangerous. The objective truth in the 70s was, "smoking is good for you". Since then, the narrative changed. Politics, and even s̶c̶i̶e̶n̶c̶e̶ scientific research (to a degree) -- are subjective, despite what world leaders or politicians want you to believe. You can manipulate the data in a way that suits you or your agenda, you can buy scientific researches, etc. It…

> The objective truth in the 70s was, "smoking is good for you".

Bollocks. Even as early as the 1950s there was a widely known link between smoking and cancer, and a 1964 Surgeon General's report said, unequivocally, that smoking causes cancer.

Hell, even in the 1600s tobacco was regarded as potentially dangerous. King James the VI of Scotland and I of England wrote, in 1604, the ‘Counterblaste to Tobacco’, where he talked about its negative impacts.

The "objective truth" was that capitalism doesn't care about your health, and ad campaigns were able to squash every attempt at getting people to quit.

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

#106

Post by red-iron-pine »

workflowing wrote: post #102
atlasduo wrote: post #9

Because a lot of people are still in denial, not believing this is a plausible scenario, just like they were in denial that a large war might break out in eastern Europe "because we don't really do wars anymore". Worst part is, apparently, lots of politicians at the wheel also believe "it won't come to this". Reality is going to hit like a truck.

This. But reality will hit rather like a missile.

like a JDAM

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

#107

Post by red-iron-pine »

tmaly wrote: post #100
mnky9800n wrote: post #6

russia is currently invading ukraine using russian and north korean soldiers with the aide of iranian and chinese weapons. russia has supported pro russian candidates in elections using social media propaganda through chinese apps like tiktok helping people like hungary’s viktor orban or 2016s donald trump get elected. they also likely will get an unknown romanian pro russian leader elected as well. russia has suppor…

That is quite a claim that Tiktok can do all that.

indeed. HN contributed too!

And reddit, and twitter -- especially twitter

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

#108

Post by red-iron-pine »

hkpack wrote: post #84
mnky9800n wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

feel free to add details you think are missing.

On the highest level it is the war for the world order between democracies and autocracies. On the level below it is a war for the spheres of influence between China and US. Next, it is Russian war for the control of the Europe and middle east. Below it is the wars by Iranian/Russian/Chinese proxies to help with the goals mentioned above. In all ongoing conflicts the parties are aligned with the China on top of the c…

or, in a line, "Hegemonic War Theory"

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

#109

Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

I am, for all intents & purposes, powerless to prevent it. And I can't do anything meaningful to prepare for it. So why worry about it? I can vote for people I think will try to avoid it, and have normal preparedness for much more likely disasters, but beyond that there's not much to do.

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

#110

Post by gus_massa »

warkanlock wrote: post #91
gus_massa wrote: post #69

I try to keep some food at home (probably 2 weeks), it's just the normal food so it's rotating naturally. It's also helpful for weird local events that are very rare, but not unheard. (Hi from Argentina!) I should keep more water, but I'm too lazy. I have only probably only two days that is too few. If I had time, I'd pick some iodine pills. They are small and have a long shelf life. Anything else is too difficult or…

Que haces che! Two of us from Argentina; it seems like a traditional thing with inflation that my father taught me a long time ago to keep food for at least 2 weeks. I'll try to do the same with the pills, sounds reasonable and low-effort

The two weeks are mostly to avoid short suply cuts events. For inflation the idea is to keep as few pesos as possible at the end of the month.

For example, when we got the usual half extra salary in July, one year we used it to buy liquid laundry soap for the whole year instead of keeping the money in the bank. It has a good shelf life and high price to volume ratio.

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