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Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by ed »

It’s not great as an external display, since the experience is like sitting very close to a massive TV while wearing steampunk googles. You have to turn your head a lot, and eye-tracking is broken for a lot of sites in Safari (eg accidental downvotes on HN).

I don’t think that’s a dealbreaker - as long as the device can actually act as a standalone computer.

But it can’t, at least not for developers. It’s much closer to an iPad that only runs 10% of the apps you want. Maybe this is sufficient if your job only requires communication, and not, like, actual work.

So you end up with an expensive, socially awkward accessory to your MBP, which quickly gets left at home, because it doesn’t really do anything better than your existing devices.

(The one use case AVP handles well: watching a movie, in bed, alone. Which is kinda bleak.)

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by solardev »

mikhael28 wrote: post #99
solardev wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the same thing about business suits (not sure what the proper name for them is, the thing that normal CEOs and lawyers wear, with the necktie and everything). They look super hot and uncomfortable and I wore one to a wedding once and then swore them off for life. Ridiculous items. But people pay thousands for them, apparently. Powerful apes signal status with fancy fibers, I guess.

Suits can be very comfortable to wear, even with neckties and dress shoes. The first monkeys probably though shirts were hot, stuffy and uncomfortable too. They are not ridiculous items.

Guess this ape will have to disagree with ya. I'll never wear one of those again.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by Ancapistani »

I use mine probably 2-3x per week, ~8 hours per day. The biggest productivity boost is being able to increase the environment, and thus isolation from the stuff around me in my office.

It should be noted that I spend on average >20 hours per week - sometimes 40 or more - using a Pimax Crystal as well. The weight of the AVP is significantly less than that, so I’m not feeling the “it’s uncomfortable” stuff that others report.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

#104

Post by 47282847 »

mikhael28 wrote: post #99
solardev wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the same thing about business suits (not sure what the proper name for them is, the thing that normal CEOs and lawyers wear, with the necktie and everything). They look super hot and uncomfortable and I wore one to a wedding once and then swore them off for life. Ridiculous items. But people pay thousands for them, apparently. Powerful apes signal status with fancy fibers, I guess.

Suits can be very comfortable to wear, even with neckties and dress shoes. The first monkeys probably though shirts were hot, stuffy and uncomfortable too. They are not ridiculous items.

Really? I want to be able to flexibly move my arms and legs into all kinds of directions, I want to sit down on grass or generally on the ground, stretch my legs out, sit cross-legged, crash on couches, snuggle into various types of chairs, cuddle with people, play with kids on random/unplanned occasions, etc. Suits restrict a lot of movement or would look like bags, compared to eg stretch jeans and a tshirt and hoodie. I often use hoodies as makeshift pillows or seat cushion (and offer that to others), not so sure how that would go for a suit jacket. And I can squeeze them into a backpack when warm, or throw into a random corner or on the floor. It’s also easy to lend them to other people when they are cold, where jackets really only fit people of the exact same stature. All that and more means „comfortable to wear (and use)“ for me.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by ENGNR »

47282847 wrote: post #104
mikhael28 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suits can be very comfortable to wear, even with neckties and dress shoes. The first monkeys probably though shirts were hot, stuffy and uncomfortable too. They are not ridiculous items.

Really? I want to be able to flexibly move my arms and legs into all kinds of directions, I want to sit down on grass or generally on the ground, stretch my legs out, sit cross-legged, crash on couches, snuggle into various types of chairs, cuddle with people, play with kids on random/unplanned occasions, etc. Suits restrict a lot of movement or would look like bags, compared to eg stretch jeans and a tshirt and hood…

You can do all of that with a properly tailored suit.

If it’s expensive you probably don’t want to roll around in the dust, but if you look at images of workers from hundreds of years ago they were essentially wearing suits (trousers, shirt, jacket, hat) most of the time, even for manual labor

Very formal these days though

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by astrostl »

frakkingcylons wrote: post #29
edmundsauto wrote: post #8

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Have you tried the Meta headset for movies?

When traveling, the Xreal Air 2 glasses are fantastic for watching video or playing games on your switch or steam deck. It’s light and comfortable, the FOV is good enough IMO, and the image quality is pretty solid (plus it’s using OLED). They don’t have to be charged at all and you don’t stand out as much as if you were wearing a full headset.

Thanks so much for sharing this! I had no idea non-HEADSET stuff had evolved this much. Just picked up a pair after doing a bit more research.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by karlgkk »

swyx wrote: post #52
jemmyw wrote: post #38

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> Btw protip, tea tastes fine through a metal straw Sounds burny

was this a microplastics thing or a dogwhistle coded for some dark net activity? i hav eno idea

No it’s because I like to drink tea while I work and I don’t enjoy the idea of splashing liquid into the fan intake of a $3500 computer

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by solardev »

ENGNR wrote: post #105
47282847 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? I want to be able to flexibly move my arms and legs into all kinds of directions, I want to sit down on grass or generally on the ground, stretch my legs out, sit cross-legged, crash on couches, snuggle into various types of chairs, cuddle with people, play with kids on random/unplanned occasions, etc. Suits restrict a lot of movement or would look like bags, compared to eg stretch jeans and a tshirt and hood…

You can do all of that with a properly tailored suit. If it’s expensive you probably don’t want to roll around in the dust, but if you look at images of workers from hundreds of years ago they were essentially wearing suits (trousers, shirt, jacket, hat) most of the time, even for manual labor Very formal these days though

Indeed, it seems like fighting in a suit is a common trope in Hollywood...

Blood and Bone: https://youtu.be/sFJ4R7rccn8?si=2hN9Lxz_pcXLlaJ-&t=121

Bond: https://youtu.be/KokmzxszDow?si=8TQko8lEpU6VQ48R&t=107

Though of course, some actors prefer to take them off before a fight :)

Transporter: https://youtu.be/farceMd4Zlg?si=n9p71hQbxiJvKP9Q&t=88

Guess it's different when you're a rich star who can afford tailored suits...

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by solardev »

jfoster wrote: post #67
virgildotcodes wrote: post #23

I feel like I would have been the ideal customer for it. I travel a lot and I'm a developer deep in the Apple ecosystem who is constantly wishing he had more screen real estate while bouncing between hotels and Airbnbs every few weeks. I bought it and tried it for two weeks and ended up returning it. It's really cool, but even aside from the issues with 1.0 like not being able to just pull up individual app windows f…

The visual quality of the Apple Vision Pro is extremely far ahead of any other headset. I generally don't like Apple products and I think they made plenty of mistakes with Vision Pro, but the visual quality is exceptional for our time. I wouldn't advise anyone to buy it, but I would strongly encourage everyone to try it out in an Apple Store.

Wish they'd just release a set of basic wired glasses with those displays, for tethered usage with a Mac. I don't need the AR/VR crap, a battery pack, etc., but I'd be very happy with a set of high-res glasses that act as external monitors.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

#110

Post by kietay »

I bought it and used it this way professionally for 2 weeks before returning. Honestly I loved it but the screen is still slightly muddy compared to looking at a MacBook and the bigger issue is it’s way too heavy still. Face started hurting after the first hour.
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