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Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

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Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#101

This is a "throwaway" account for obvious reasons. I did some terrible things when I was 19 that I won't go into details, but after working as a developer for a few years, served a six-year sentence from 2003-2009. Upon release, I leveraged some old contacts to get a bit of contracting work. In time I found more contracting work, mostly working for smaller companies on a 1099 basis. (direct, not through a firm) In ti…

> This is a "throwaway" account for obvious reasons.

You should know that if you also have a non-throwaway account, HN will unify your accounts in their backend records.

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#102
post #23

I don't have much helpful to add, but I had a colleague who had a bad night, acquired some felony charges for a firearm-related assault and they got fired/blacklisted for a few years. Subsequently, they did IT contract work behind the scenes with small contractors, kept in touch with his professional network, was super helpful to the rest of us, and after serious concerns and much debate, got back into his prior care…

Felony charges are a lot different from felony convictions. Was he convicted?

He was charged and convicted on multiple felonies. Thanks for asking, that's an important distinction.

There's a good chance he's on HN and may pop into this thread.

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#103

This is a "throwaway" account for obvious reasons. I did some terrible things when I was 19 that I won't go into details, but after working as a developer for a few years, served a six-year sentence from 2003-2009. Upon release, I leveraged some old contacts to get a bit of contracting work. In time I found more contracting work, mostly working for smaller companies on a 1099 basis. (direct, not through a firm) In ti…

> This is a "throwaway" account for obvious reasons. You should know that if you also have a non-throwaway account, HN will unify your accounts in their backend records.

Is there proof of this?

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#104

I've been released 2 years ago and no I've been unable to find a gig. No one would reply lol. I m doing open source projects, ai and indie games. I've got more stress Cred than before. I think getting back to Normie workforce in police state such as us is impossible. Peace man

it really sucks. If I had known I'd lose my jobs the way I did each time, I would never have applied to begin with. it was really traumatic each time, and very sudden. it PTSD'd me, not that I have any shortage of that. But just the way everyone gets when you go from "everyone knows you and respects you and likes you" and suddenly it's ... uhh ohh. everyone being quiet. is this... again?

yes. yes it was. and I just can't do that anymore. that isn't living, it's dying.

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#105
post #80
post #37

Move to a different country. I'm in an EU country and it's really rare to see a company do any background checks at all. Be honest, if/when you're asked about it of course - but just from personal anecdotal experience, it's rare that somebody even bothers to ask. (this might vary of course from country to country)

You need a clean background to move to another country if you're not a European. I specifically had to submit a Canadian RCMP fingerprint based background check when I moved to Iceland. EU nationals have it much easier, since the relocation process in the EU does not require that level of scrutiny.

If you're in the US, cross the border into Mexico and re-enter as an asylum seeker.

Until the idiots in charge change this (by enforcing the existing laws), you should take maximum advantage of its opportunities.

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a "throwaway" account for obvious reasons. You should know that if you also have a non-throwaway account, HN will unify your accounts in their backend records.

Is there proof of this?

Proof definitely needed. Honestly this doesn’t sound like something HN would have any interest in doing, they don’t serve ads or anything like that so why would they care?

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#107
(Throw away account for obvious reasons)

I experienced this. Due to various undiagnosed mental health issues I ended up with a serious record in the UK - a total of 15 charges, all computer related.

Due to the clear lack of malicious intent I didn't serve any time, but did get shackled with: 12 months suspended for 12 months; 10 years on the sex offenders register; 7 years sexual harm prevention order; and 5 years of something else I can't remember.

Every computer I touch - whilst in the UK - should have "monitoring" software installed, which pretty much ruled out any office job, let alone tech.

So after 2 failed suicide attempts and a stay in hospital I decided to completely reinvent myself and start from scratch. Time to hit the big reset button. Legally I have to reveal my convictions ahead of signing a contract in the UK. I got frog-marched out of several buildings by security after the interviews were terminated immediately when I revealed my convictions. I was basically unemployable in the UK and decided to leave and never return. Even after the 10 years is up I am still required to declare "spent convictions" for 5/6 years. This would take me close to my 50th birthday until I no longer have to say anything - 15 years from conviction date.

It took 1 year to "create" a new identity, including complete change of name, severing any connection with friends, and faking an employment history.

I moved abroad with my new identity and hoped for the best... and so far have had an incredibly successful career (post-conviction), and the one thing which has driven me is being good enough that IF my employer learns of my past, they will weigh up what I offer them vs. what I have done in my past.

I remain forever optimistic because _I have to_ . There is no other option.

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there proof of this?

Proof definitely needed. Honestly this doesn’t sound like something HN would have any interest in doing, they don’t serve ads or anything like that so why would they care?

Ban evasion?

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#109
post #49

Nov’22 is very recent, and won’t be your experience forever. It’s been a little over 20 years for me. Now, I get background checked every year. It doesn’t show. Initially I worked in food service and on phpfreelancer. I spun that into consistent consulting work until a client offered a full time position (less than 15 people, no background checks). As the years rolled by, I kept moving around. Eventually I tried at a…

Not a felon but grew up with everyone telling us that colleges would search our social media etc.

A friend told me that the 2 important rules to surviving corporate environments is the following in no specific order.

1. Never lie to someone, and own what you did. Wordsmithing is a gray area but never lie, the reputation of not being truthful can follow you for decades.

2. Never volunteer information that isn't specifically asked for. This isn't a free pass to not provide critical info when your working on stuff like a project, but keep in mind that HR always can dig up info when they want to fire you or not offer you a job. Be honest and to the point, but don't volunteer info that can put you in a bad spot.

TLDR: if they don't ask, don't tell. But if they ask, be honest

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#110

Assault charges but not physical violence? What in the world? I'm so sorry you got that on your record. I would look at smaller startups that might make it easy to just escalate to the CEO if you have a good explanation, rather than having an HR department stop you right away. EDIT: I thought assault meant physical violence, but not harm while battery meant harm. I was wrong I guess?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38858468 They mention here some more info.
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