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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean $50/month? Or maybe $5/day? I’m reading: > Ampere A1 compute… with cores billed at $0.01 per OCPU-hour and memory billed at $0.0015 per GB-hour in all regions. So for 6 cores and 32gb memory I’m calculating $78.84 per month. I’d love to get 32gb of ram for $5/month.. but it sounds too good to be true.

Looks like 4 cores and 24 GB fit inside the free tier: https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/

Thank you, Wow that’s a generous free tier!

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

#103
Besides using Codespaces for inspecting code, I’ve used it for running some applicants’ submissions a few months back.

One of the submissions was built in Java and didn’t use Docker (I guess the person had an aversion to it). I didn’t want to bother installing Java on my machine, so Codespaces seemed like a good idea. It took less time to get it working than it would’ve to find the download link on Oracle’s website.

I’ve also used it to write a few lines of code on my iPad, but this was far from ideal.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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No because I want the entire development environment to run locally (and anywhere else) without WAN connectivity.

You could still totally lock it down and deny WAN access but holepunch just for your vpn of choice.

It's more the principal so that I can spin up tests anywhere and actually understand the full set of deps.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Plenty of large companies are using them (I'm talking Google/FB/Microsoft and the like). You may not have heard of it because they run these systems in-house vs using a commercial service. My company switched to 100% remote dev envs a couple years ago. When you cut a branch it spins up a VM and you can connect to it from VS Code (native or browser based) or just plain SSH. It works great. The lag is not noticeable at…

Curious what you do for the people on less-than-good internet connections? Or is everybody just onsite with a business-class SLA?

SSH used to work perfectly fine over 28.8 kbps modems. You don't really need a stellar connection for remote coding. If your internet is capable enough for a video call it can run a hundred remote IDEs side by side.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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post #81

Plenty of large companies are using them (I'm talking Google/FB/Microsoft and the like). You may not have heard of it because they run these systems in-house vs using a commercial service. My company switched to 100% remote dev envs a couple years ago. When you cut a branch it spins up a VM and you can connect to it from VS Code (native or browser based) or just plain SSH. It works great. The lag is not noticeable at…

Microsoft has a commercial offering called Microsoft Dev Box [0]. Engineers at the company use the service.

[0] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/dev-box

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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I don't really see the appeal. We don't even use the same dev environments at work, some use vscode, others use pycharm or codeblocks or whatever. We have code locally, on github, on gitlab and in other places. Also I can't really say that I've heard anyone outside of this thread who is excited about this at all. I see people here have different ideas but personally I've never heard of it from anyone I work with or k…

To me it feels like one of things if executed really well would be amazing, but the first thing that comes to mind when I unwrap it is all of the things that could make it a bad experience. I can also concur that I work in an area a that is doing somewhat bleeding edge infra work (probably second stage adopters) and none of my colleagues or myself is actively seeking out this technology. We don’t really seem to have…

I'd say it works well enough for maybe 90% of devs at my company. It solves a lot of real issues for them and dramatically simplifies onboarding.

The issue is that most of my team are in that 10% and now that 90% of the company have their needs met, we're getting pressure to conform because maintaining all the physical infrastructure for a small group gets expensive. Unfortunately, we can't use cloud environments for a reasonable chunk of our work, so that really means we're get forgotten about until we complain loudly enough, no matter how friendly I am with the relevant teams.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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post #81

Plenty of large companies are using them (I'm talking Google/FB/Microsoft and the like). You may not have heard of it because they run these systems in-house vs using a commercial service. My company switched to 100% remote dev envs a couple years ago. When you cut a branch it spins up a VM and you can connect to it from VS Code (native or browser based) or just plain SSH. It works great. The lag is not noticeable at…

I think you're talking about spinning up a temporary environment running the code and connecting via a local IDE to inspect it, whereas OP is talking about hosting the IDE remotely.

Nope, the VM has the git repo + IDE binaries + everything else. You can code against it using just a web browser if you want.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

#109
We now have an in-house cloud dev environment at Airbnb (note: my opinions are my own and not those of my employer) and it was a huge improvement over what we had in the past.

Spinup time is fast, it's easy to use VSCode remotely, and it's easy to have multiple environments for different types of projects (Python, Java, Go, etc.).

Neovim + LSP's also works perfectly if you prefer that over VSCode (via ssh)

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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post #81

Plenty of large companies are using them (I'm talking Google/FB/Microsoft and the like). You may not have heard of it because they run these systems in-house vs using a commercial service. My company switched to 100% remote dev envs a couple years ago. When you cut a branch it spins up a VM and you can connect to it from VS Code (native or browser based) or just plain SSH. It works great. The lag is not noticeable at…

Curious what you do for the people on less-than-good internet connections? Or is everybody just onsite with a business-class SLA?

Haven't had any issues w/ using VSCode connected to a remote dev environment tbh and we're full remote (Airbnb).

You can always develop locally if you're on the plane or w/e. In our case local builds try to use a remote runner if available if not they happen locally.

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