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Germany Local small social network startup’s main investor decided it’s not worth it, probably due to money being not that cheap now. Fired 30ish people, left a skeleton crew of 2 people. Abandoned the 100k MAU Android app, iOS only now.

Germany too here.

I interviewed at a company in Dortmund with international customers that paid really well and passed the technical interview, salary was very good for europe, but I am on hold for maybe weeks or months because the customer has not approved new requirements and even current devs are in danger of being let go.

In Munich it seems I am crazy to have a salary expectation of over €100k/year. Only have been offered positions to lead teams for €80-€90k. Individual contributor positions seem very hard to get at least at those salaries, plenty of IC positions for €45k-€60k.

Google here ghosted all my applications since last year.

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France. The cryptocurrencies startup are failing. The startup ecosystem was less crazy than Us/Uk/Germany, and seems still going as it was (minus crypto, plus AI). Embedded is still going strong. Lots of opportunities for devops here in banking/insurance.

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UK has been unaffected it seems. Lots of companies hiring right now.

I second this - there's been a bit of budget cutting at my current company but really nothing has changed. Not sure why we're so unaffected here (touch wood). Perhaps there is less work on "bubbles"

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Norway here. I got laid off, but it was less of a deal because I was on my way out soon anyway, so it really worked out nicely. I got a new position relatively quick (relatively, because everything slows down near the end of the year.)

I think that the strong US dollar has put a bit of a damper on companies that have diverse cash flows in different currencies, my former employer included, particularly if their bills are denominated in dollars primarily. My new employer is international, but where I will work probably has a lot of cash flow in the local currency, so I presume things will be influenced by interest rate policy here (which stands at 2.75% now and rate hikes have slowed down significantly.)

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UK has been unaffected it seems. Lots of companies hiring right now.

UK has a lot lower % of VC funded startups. Would be interesting to see the stats on that. Most UK IT is directly servicing customers through consultancies or inhouse. UK recession/inflation is bad at the moment, but almost everywhere seems to have a hiring issue as well, which started around Brexit/Covid and has only got worse recently.

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They shut my office down in Canada. Lots of jobs. Most are remote for US companies though. Very few recruiters spamming me, but companies are very receptive to inbound inquiries from me. I’m a senior eng in AI research though, which is obviously having a big moment right now.

>They shut my office down in Canada. Lots of jobs. Most are remote for US companies though.

Is it true that most employees of US tech companies in Canadian offices are immigrants who are parked there on their way to the US, or can't get into the US?

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Here in India most of the VC funded startups and large international tech companies are laying off people left and right. Most VCs are funded from international clients, who are fleeing with their money for good reasons; the grow-at-all-costs model hasn't worked out yet, and time is up because interest rates.

Hiring also seems to have been paused. I used to get recruiter inmail at least three times a week, but have only received 2 in the past three months.

This has not impacted other sectors outside IT/tech/startups. If you are currently a developer in a decently sized company in a different sector, you're likely fine. Non-software firms will obviously use the opportunity to lowball you on further salary growth, but it's unlikely that you'll get laid off soon.

I just hope people didn't go end spend all of their massive salaries they earned in the last few years since it's going to get even more difficult in the near future.

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Poland. On one hand it’s a bit slower on the other Google here hiring like crazy, Netflix opening up an office, Shopify acquiring whole companies… To me it seems like big tech fires in the US then look for cheaper workforce elsewhere. Or maybe just a coincidence?

Canada here, I think the same thing is happening.

Since the everything bubble crested, Canada has gotten pretty high up there in salary so it's not necessarily boosting our salaries too much more, but I don't think hiring is slowing down here either

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Brazilian here: for laid off in November by an UK based startup and still unemployed. Local companies seemly are willing to hire but because the flood of fired workers they are offering really bad wages. I got offered work as embedded C dev for 300 USD month... I didn't accept back then because I was still working in my old job. I regret not taking that job now. 300 USD at least is more than 0 USD.

300 per month, 300*12=3600 per year, seems a lot lower than median for Brazil: https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/brazil . Guess there must be a huge span between companies then.

Levels doesn't seem to track salaries for your average "mediocre" (see, work-life-balance prioritized) developer quite as well.

In Canada their end of year report listed some cities with median salaries of 100-130K USD, but I think most Canadian devs aren't on levels, and earning a bit less.

For example, the Canadian government pretty much pays software engineers between 40K-80K USD (even for 20 YoE). They're surely a massive employer, but they're not listed on Levels

Not that working for big tech or U.S. companies is that much more desireable, but it does pay a lot more, and those people are more likely to be reporting on Levels

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Denmark. Business as usual. Only layoffs seem to be the bubbles that we expected to burst anyway.

I work for a Danish startup. Can't comment on the market, but we're looking for another round of funding and oh dear was this a whole lot more fun two years ago when we got our for pre-seed.
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