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Re: Ask HN: Isn't ChatGPT unfair to the sources it scraped data from?

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1GB file would contain roughly 166,000,000 words. This includes the space between words, so the average word is 5 characters. A typical single-spaced page is 500 words long That’s 179,280,000 full pages of text. I wonder if they excluded any duplicated text.

But its not just words…

I thought LLM were fed text only in their training data set?

I’ve only done image classifiers and object detectors so I was assuming they must be trained with similar pure datasets.

Re: Ask HN: Isn't ChatGPT unfair to the sources it scraped data from?

#106
Ah, our daily dose of a bunch of people with basically no understanding of copyright law or even the basic concepts of tort or common law jurisprudence make all sorts of silly anthropomorphic arguments about “how computers think”.

Please, people, learn how to focus your thoughts. Go read up on copyright law in the United States. If you go into learning about copyright law trying to justify your own preconceived notions you will gain nothing.

Re: Ask HN: Isn't ChatGPT unfair to the sources it scraped data from?

#107

chatgpt actually has some ideas about this question: How could the people who generate used in an ai language model be paid for their work? answer: There are several ways in which the people who generate content for an AI language model could be paid for their work: Royalty-based payment: Content creators could receive a percentage of the revenue generated from the use of their content in the AI language model. Token…

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Re: Ask HN: Isn't ChatGPT unfair to the sources it scraped data from?

#108
1- It's on internet. If it's on Google site then it's free. If you want then use robots.txt (not that ever stopped google's spider to index your pages)

2 - Code was trained from GitHub. GitHub is Microsoft. OpenAI is Microsoft money. So Microsoft trained its AI on Microsoft code. You disagree? Then GTFO from GitHub and don't feed Microsoft your code anymore.

3 (the most important point) - Q: "Can this start breaking the ad-based model of the internet, where a lot of sites rely upon the ad income to run servers?"

Fuck YEAH!! please do so. I hope the shit show that ad model is crashes and burn to the ground. You can't use internet without having a solid armor on you with uBlock Origin and/or NoScript (or PiHole if you want the same readable experience on rest of your house devices).

Re: Ask HN: Isn't ChatGPT unfair to the sources it scraped data from?

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No. It's not. Also, it's not unfair if I study someone's work and then learn from it. Also, it's not unfair if you see my internet present and are inspired to do similar things.

At some point participating in the internet means your stuff is going to be seen. I wear glasses to read web content. I don't think the glasses company should pay royalties for what I read. chatGPT is a tool that allows me to understand and use the information people put onto the internet better.

Far from a matter of fairness, this is simply another way that selfish people are trying to monetize the future, to make it more and more difficult and expensive for others to participate.

"I've always wished I could charge everyone one earth. chatGTP looks like the future. If I can tap the money flow there I will get mo' money."

I'm against it.

Re: Ask HN: Isn't ChatGPT unfair to the sources it scraped data from?

#110

Is it unfair for you to create content/products/etc after you have read and learned from various sources on the internet, potentially depriving them of clicks/income? People get internet hostile at me for this question, but it really is that simple. They've automated you, and it's definitely going to be a problem, but if it's acceptable for your brain to do the same thing, you're going to have to find a different ang…

If you treat ChatGPT like a human, how high is the salary you are going to pay it?
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