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#101

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Probably worth doing now - eg the ‘Mum I lost my phone, this is my new number’ scam which needs nothing more than SMS.

I've read about this scam and it seems interesting to me - is that a realistic thing that might happen if your relative lost a phone? Perhaps it's a market-specific issue, but I have had multiple phones lost/stolen/broken in my life, but I still have the same number I had since my first phone back in the previous millenium, and I somewhat expect that some kid's phone number will stay the same until they die unless th…

We've had total number portability here for a few decades, but I do know a few people who have changed numbers due to lost/replaced phones also. I'm not sure if the reason for this is due to unawareness of the process, difficulties proving ownership of the previous number, impatience (new accounts are activated same day, number porting takes 2-3 days), or some other factor, but even when the option is there it seems not everyone avails of it.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

#102

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Probably worth doing now - eg the ‘Mum I lost my phone, this is my new number’ scam which needs nothing more than SMS.

I've read about this scam and it seems interesting to me - is that a realistic thing that might happen if your relative lost a phone? Perhaps it's a market-specific issue, but I have had multiple phones lost/stolen/broken in my life, but I still have the same number I had since my first phone back in the previous millenium, and I somewhat expect that some kid's phone number will stay the same until they die unless th…

Yes portability etc is a thing but this is targeting trusted relationships and non tech-savvy folks. It’s also really easy to do and doesn’t need many to so a different phone number can be explained well enough as ‘a friend’s phone’ or even just ‘my old phone broke’

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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1. The growth of deep fake porn might lead us down a path where revenge porn no longer "works" as people know that for every real nude leaked there are like 10'000 fake ones.

2. Stylometrics AI gets so good that the only way to remain anonymous/private is to follow boring writing manuals thus killing a lot of creative writing of sensitive topics.

3. People spending so much time online that neighbours can barely talk to each other as they use the same words in subtly different meanings. We tradicionally saw this happening with people of different professions (e.g. law speak is very different from doctor speak). But having this phenomenon happening for every single fandom or microlabel can lead us to a lot of political troubles as votres can't reach common ground.

4. Companies will start storing fake data on their servers so as to minimize the value of the data for cybercriminals.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

#104
Minimally noticeable Augmented Reality, like what Google Glass wanted to be. Specifically because companies like Apple say that they're working on it.

AR will marginally improve the life of anyone who uses it and worsen the life of everyone around them, including people who themselves use AR, especially as the usage rate rises.

• Right now it is possible to opt out of location tracking in cities by simply leaving your phone at home or turning it off temporarily. If 10% of people start using AR, that will no longer be possible due to facial recognition.

• Right now, you can mostly tell when someone is recording you in such a way that the video could be used against your interests (aiming a personal cell phone at you or, if and only if you intend to commit a crime, stores' security cameras (which don't record audio)). Also, right now, when you make a small mistake, you can presume that you were not recorded because people will not have had time to get their phone out and start recording. You apologize and life goes on. With 10% of people using AR, you must presume to be recorded at all times by people who can and will upload the video for everyone to see in exchange for minuscule social media engagement.

• Right now, it is already relatively socially unacceptable to tell a friend or peer to stop using their phone in a social environment, like during dinner. I have experienced that it's a sure-fire way to ruin a dinner date. They'll comply and silently resent you. I see no reason why it would be different with ubiquitous AR. This will cause problems and I have a feeling that society's eventual solution will tend toward "let people do what they individually want" rather than the "we agree to stop using AR during this event".

• The number of people who cannot live without AR is going to be shockingly high. It will not be possible to get to know young people as people because their thinking process and personality will be so intertwined with AR that they shut down without it. Tim Cook: "So I think that if you, and this will happen clearly not too long from now, if you look back at a point in time, you know, zoom out to the future and look back, you'll wonder how you led your life without augmented reality. Just like today, we wonder, how did people like me grow up without the internet. And so I think it could be that profound, and it's not going to be profound overnight".

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It might actually already exist, but imagine if on the other side of the internet they aggregate all of your usage information so that a tech can sit down at one console and see that "jimbo123" on Reddit is actually Bob Smith who lives on Sunnydale drive, owns a Subaru Outback, bought dogfood three times this month, and has been talking about the war a bit more this week on his other social media accounts. Anyone who…

I’m sure even an amateur without access to any secret data could do this for a large chunk of users already. I’m guilty of re-using online handles and some times associating it with a public email and so on. Once that leads to my social media accounts, there is very little left to find. I think most users practice this non-existent opsec.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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What I see happening soon: The mainstreaming of a new religion. Its tenets are broadly: the worship of technology and "progress", the cyborgization of the population, the proliferation of AI on all spheres of life, and the ultimate creation of the successor of humanity. This is not new, it's been going on for at least 200 years, but finally the technology exists to do it in a decentralized, scalable fashion. Think of…

I find it difficult to believe that tech people would organize in large scale around a new religion, as tech and religion are opposites in how you see and approach the world. With religion, everything can be explained with god, but with tech we need to use the scientific approach that rejects god. But of course, it could just separate us into two camps: the "gods" who create and manage the tech, and all the others wh…

If the technology is driven by a black box, it might be different. Right now, to the average person, there isn’t a lot of understanding of technology that currently exists. “The algorithms” is the modern day “only god knows”

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

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It being necessary to use shibboleths/code words to authenticate to each other over video chat (eg, to ensure that the person you're speaking to is who they appear to be, not someone else using deepfake puppetry). Really this is an implicit biometric authentication mechanism, and biometrics are usernames, not passwords. (Though I'd love to be wrong about this one.)

Meh. If this were an issue people would have been doing it with IRC/Email 10-20 years ago.

They have been, eg, it's a common scam to steal someone's phone and text their friends asking for money, or to hack into someone's work email and try to get a fraudulent invoice approved. I read an article about an incident of the latter once where they compromised the CEO's email, read through it enough to passably imitate his writing style, and then sent an invoice to the CFO which they described as urgent.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

#108
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It might actually already exist, but imagine if on the other side of the internet they aggregate all of your usage information so that a tech can sit down at one console and see that "jimbo123" on Reddit is actually Bob Smith who lives on Sunnydale drive, owns a Subaru Outback, bought dogfood three times this month, and has been talking about the war a bit more this week on his other social media accounts. Anyone who…

I assume this to be true already, so I assume all my posts are public and will be seen by coworkers and family, so I'm very careful on what I post online.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

#109
The horrors are in high technology, and biology.

The normalization of genetic engineering will eventually allow us to make changes to people to make them more complacent for horrid conditions. Imagine an entire underclass that not only doesn't notice the squalor, but are too content to fight the abuse heaped upon them.

This, in conjunction with VR entertainment, will be a method used to permanently imprison the lower classes in breif bliss existence before returning to their 16 hour shift at a suicide net equipped war crime factory.

Re: Ask HN: What tech utopia/horror ideas do you see materialising soon?

#110
Continued erosion of reality.

The bulk of people are utterly gullible. You don't have to look past any of the creative writing exercises on r/tifu that make the front page of reddit.

The major application of AI/deepfakes/etc is going to be to continue to bombard the internet with fake information, driving a wedge between people and reality.

The result is going to be more conspiracy theories going mainstream, more people believing "counterintuitive" things about how human systems work, etc.

I don't see us generating an immune-system-like response to this anytime soon, and suspect it will require some kind of massive WWII-scale tragedy before policymakers stop treating it as a game and taking it seriously.

This won't be done by "terrorists", it will be done in bulk by nation-state actors and billionaires and their proxies.

Right now we can still identify the obvious bot accounts on twitter, reddit, etc. In the future, ChatGPT-like accounts will be running continuously building up accounts with months of history on random subjects (although consistent subjects per account) before they are employed to reinforce some narrative. They'll even get properly offended and flip you shit when you accuse them of being bots.

The only way out of it may be certifying identity through the government who is real and mandating that people use their real identities on social media and requiring social media to collect proof of who their users are. Which is its own dystopia.

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