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Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#101

What VM sizes? Besides what’s already been said, internal capacity differs HUGELY based on VM SKU. If you need GPUs or something it’ll be tough. But a lot of the newer v4/v5 general compute SKUs (D/Da/E/Ea/etc) have plenty of capacity in many regions. If changing regions sounds like a pain, consider gambling on other VM size availability. (azure employee)

Actually nothing fancy, for sure no GPUs. Just Standard_E4s_v4.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#102

This is nothing new, Azure has been having capacity problem for over a year now[1]. Germany is not the only region affected at all, it's the case for a number of instance types in some of their larger US regions as well. In the meantime you can still commit to reserved instances, there is just not a guarantee of getting those instances when you need them. The biggest advice I can give is 1. keep trying and grabbing c…

> In the meantime you can still commit to reserved instances, there is just not a guarantee of getting those instances when you need them. ... wait, what? How are they defining 'reserved'?

It's a billing mechanism. You pay less if you guarantee use. Sadly, they don't guarantee availability of things to use :)

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#103

What VM sizes? Besides what’s already been said, internal capacity differs HUGELY based on VM SKU. If you need GPUs or something it’ll be tough. But a lot of the newer v4/v5 general compute SKUs (D/Da/E/Ea/etc) have plenty of capacity in many regions. If changing regions sounds like a pain, consider gambling on other VM size availability. (azure employee)

Actually nothing fancy, for sure no GPUs. Just Standard_E4s_v4.

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Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#104

Azure Germany is a separate partition from the rest of Azure - presumably for compliance reasons. This is distinct from AWS, where Frankfurt is just another region, albeit one with high demand.

> AWS .. Frankfurt is just another region Unlike GCP and Azure, all AWS regions are (were) partitioned by design. This "blast radius" is (was) fantastic for resilience, security, and data sovereignty. It is (was) incredibly easy to be compliant in AWS, not to mention the ruggedness benefits. AWS customers with more money than cloud engineers kept clamoring for cross-region capabilities ("Like GCP has!"), and in last…

> Unlike GCP and Azure, all AWS regions are (were) partitioned by design. This "blast radius" is (was) fantastic for resilience, security, and data sovereignty. It is (was) incredibly easy to be compliant in AWS, not to mention the ruggedness benefits.

Could you elaborate on this a little? We use AWS, but are evaluating OCI for certain (very specific) cases, and I'll love to know what questions to ask for comparison purposes.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#105
There is no such thing as unlimited when it comes to resources and/or scalability in the hosting market. You might want to find a local colocation provider, buy a few network switches and servers as a secondary production and backup environment for your startup. Deploying your own infrastructure gives you full control over your startup. Yes it will raise your overhead and yes it’s not cheap but for a sustainable operation it’s a requirement in my opinion. I currently use Azure but I also have my own deployment with my own IP addresses and ASN which I keep spare capacity and keep some important servers on there incase something happens with Azure. Definitely helps me sleep better at night.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#106
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Is it that much cheaper for you to build a new region on Azure versus getting setup on AWS? If you rely on Kubernetes for orchestration and have minimal cloud API dependency, it may be worth that evaluating this option. Also, do you have a TAM associated with your account? Are you just going through regular support channels? Can they deliver different instance types (not sure what the Azure parallel is), can they del…

We already tried to push Microsoft, sadly have they been not very helpful. Still trying to get in contact with somebody that can actually make a difference. After all, are we also not asking for a hundred machines. Can really not imagine that they can not somehow make the resources we require available.

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Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#107

While you're at it at making your "infrastructure as code" cloud agnostic perhaps take a look at tools like Terraform (the only one I'm familiar with). I've just started the work of defining whatever we need to provision in their notation with the objective that it can be done with a single push of a button in the future.

It has actually been done that way. For technical reasons is sadly a move to a new data center even with that very complicated and time consuming.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#108
I worked briefly in an enterprise facing sales organization that targeted multi-cloud deployments. Azure always had capacity problems.

As ridiculous as it sounds, having an enterprise's applications exist on multi-cloud isn't terrible if the application is mission critical - not only does this get around Azure's constant provisioning issues but protects an organization from the rare provider failure. (Though multi-region AWS has never been a problem in my experience, there is a first time for everything.) Data transfer pricing between clouds is prohibitively expensive, especially when you consider the reason why you may want multi-cloud in the first place (e.g., it's easier to provision 1000+ instances on AWS than Azure for an Apache Spark cluster for a few minutes or hours execution - mostly irrelevant if your data lives in Azure Data Lake Storage).

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#109
As part of launching our global GPU edge network, we need to support low-volume regions, which means a small number of T4 gpu in different timezones. Azure ran out last Christmas, or at least refused us capacity, and is only adding the next tier of A10's (~2x+ costlier?). We haven't had as much of a problem getting GPUs of different grade on GCP + AWS. I get a form email every 2w from Azure IT that they are working on it. Not as much of an issue for bigger GPUs.

(Also... If into k8s, python, GPUs, graphs, viz, MLOps, working with sec/fraud/supplychain/gov/etc customers on cool deploys, and looking for a remote job, we are hiring for someone to take ownership here!)

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#110
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Def not true with AWS, unless you reach a particular scale. Not for product market fit. My technology choices would be fully managed services so I could focus on my actual business.

Read the "Well Architected" paper. Go multi-region.

Can you link me to the well architected paper that talks about going multi-region for an early stage startup?
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