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Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

#101
I still drink on occasion but now I can go months without when I used to drink 3-4 nights a week. Sometimes I'd put down a 6 pack on those nights.

Honestly, I got tired of being tired. LFPs were normal but my cholesterol and stuff was off indicating that I was doing some kind of metabolic damage. I decided to say "fuck it" and told myself I'd do exactly one week of not drinking. The first weekend I woke up sober I was bored but I noticed that I wasn't tired, or extremely hungry, or anything. I just felt right.

Then I kept that feeling up, setting challenges along the way. "Use my sober time to my advantage". Improved blood work dramatically (back to normal), lost weight, and kept a bunch of good habits. Now, occasionally I'll indulge if I'm out or being social, but I've basically all but stopped drinking on anything remotely near as often as I did. I discovered a lot about myself by reflecting on what made me drink so much (I was much more social drunk) and how I can remedy that.

What works for me may not work for you. AA doesn't work for people, a lot of techniques don't work for people. There's no magic pill. You need to have a reason to do it, and a reason to stick with it. Something you can wake up every morning and remind yourself. Moreover, accept you will slip. It's not an end to your sobriety despite how AA treats it. You are human, what matters is that you learned from your slip and try your best not to do it again. To get to the point I am at I had go cold turkey for a year, and then slowly introduce it back and test myself. If I ever even come close to even two days a week now I'm back on the sober train for another year.

As for the experience of getting sober I never had to do DTs or anything. Though I did drink a lot. I found the first two weeks to be hardest, then the first two months, and then it got to be easy after that. In the first 2 weeks to 2 months you will face all sorts of challenges like having to cope with going to places you usually drink and not drinking, etc. If you can make it two months you have a good chance of sticking to it.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

#102

I've cut back by switching to non-alcohol beer. I've found that I enjoy the taste of beer, but I don't enjoy how shitty alcohol makes me feel. NA beer tends to solve that for me. Lots of good options coming out. * Just the Hazy by Sam Adams is top tier. * Athletic brewing is solely NA beer - lots of different varieties. * Heineken 0.0 is great * O'Douls amber is surprisingly passable as well I suspect the options wil…

+1 on Just the Hazy by Sam Adams - It would pass a blind taste test and everyone I have had try it likes it.

Another good brewery: https://rationalebrewing.com/

Guiness even offers a non alcoholic now that isn't bad.

I think Athletic is way overrated compared to the above though and wouldn't start there.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

#103
I'm sorry that may not be helpful, but I simply did. Alcohol tastes terrible and I never felt the urge to not be able to think properly. I like being in control. It felt pointless to spend money to damage my cognition, inhibit my risk-taking mechanisms, and feel awful the next day.

For me not to even get started, however, it was helpful to get into exercising as I was growing up. It was one extra motivator not to drink. I enjoyed exercising more than I enjoyed any possible "social benefit" of drinking.

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#104

I took Ayahuasca, and it told me to stop taking drugs. Ayahuasca is an insane plant.

Ayahuasca told you to stop taking Ayahuasca?

Well I mean I didn’t have an Ayahuasca problem but yes the concept is pretty ironic isn’t it.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

#105
3 things stand out to me in your description, based on similar experiences of my own (though not with drinking):

- It does not seem entirely clear to me why you want to stop, other than a vague idea that you might be better off that way. Figure out why first. How does not drinking make you a better person, concretely? Write that down. Share it with other people. Live your life around those important ideas. Make them a part of who you are.

- Stop being hard on yourself. It will only make the problem worse. We all make mistakes. Acknowledge it, try to figure out what caused it, fix the causes as close to the root as possible, and move on. Not drinking isn't a goal you fulfill and then you've done it. Not drinking is a process that you partake in every day. Just because you didn't one day does not diminish the value of doing so in the next 1, 2, 7, 30 days.

- Get external support with the two things above. Talk to a therapist or other people in your situation. When you're going in your old ruts, it's very hard to create change. It takes a lot of persistent work. It's helpful to have someone else sometimes remind you of why you are doing it, when you forget yourself.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

#106

I love beer and always drink fairly responsibly. The hangover from >2 beers is enough to keep me from having more than that. I used to average 2 on Friday, 2 on Saturday, maybe 1 on Sunday, and a couple of weekdays I might have 1 or 2. I always told myself that was perfectly fine because it's not excessive on a given night, but recent review of the literature convinced me otherwise. It was pretty hard to change my ha…

Same here. Two beers or more (or 1-2 glasses of wine) affects my sleep and stomach in a bad way, especially as I have gotten older (40s).

I started climbing with my son a few evenings a week and felt that even just a bit of wine for dinner affected recovery. Nowadays I rarely drink but still enjoy a beer or a glass of wine, maybe once a month.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

#107
No idea if following would be of use to you. Just thoughts based on my own experience.

If you do not have strong dependence - be aware of not liking side effects of alcohol, and disassociate good time with friends from consuming alcohol.

If you have bad memories about yourself being drunk - maybe idea of disliking yourself that is drunk would be of use (and being aware of that dislike at the moment when you decide if you are going to drink that first bottle of beer that evening or not.

If you are ok with just rarely drinking some small amount of alcohol - do not obsess/fixate on idea of not drinking ever. It will likely be easier to not drink alcohol if this topic is not tangled with internal conflicts and bunch of feelings/emotions.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

#108
Everyone has different experiences, my path was admittedly much easier than many other people.

I haven't had any alcohol in about 2 months. Prior I was consuming 1-3 drinks per week, almost exclusively beer, and almost never 3 drinks in a day. I got sick with COVID, found a podcast episode talking about the effects of alcohol and thought I'd give it a listen. [1]

The long and short of it is that alcohol is harmful to a laundry list of biological processes, and any minor benefits that might exist are absolutely dwarfed by the negatives. I wanted to feel as good as I could as fast as I could, so I haven't had alcohol since. Even my minimal consumption was affecting my sleep quality more than I realized.

I found the podcast to appeal to the logical side of me. If you made an honest list of pros and cons to consuming alcohol and were given the choice to have a drink after being raised without any exposure, you would say "why would anyone drink that stuff?", yet regular consumption of alcohol is deeply engrained in our society.

Right now I'm not drinking at all. I've been offered many times and heavily pressured a few. Alcohol hasn't been an issue for me, but it makes me feel awful for people who are battling alcoholism.

[1] https://hubermanlab.com/what-alcohol-does-to-your-body-brain...

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

#109
i got covid - and then murderous acid reflux which i'm on medication for. I used to have a beer after work (just one) nearly every day. Since June - i've not drank once until i got over covid (2 months later). Here we are nearly 4 months later and a single drink just feels aweful to me now. The liquid just sits in my stomach taking up room like it's not supposed to be there, and i'm getting no joy from it whatsoever. My night is pretty much ruined now if I do have a single drink, and reflux gets worse too.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

#110
Stay away from bars.

Stay away from friends who drink.

Turn off any and every advertisement about drinking.

Drink lots of water, juice, and coconut water. Edit: I would avoid soda, but seltzer water and flavor is fine.

Donate the equivalent amount of drinking money to charities.

Remember this: your life is cursed once if you drink. It's cursed twice if you pass it to others. And three times if you make drinks. Keep your life uncursed.

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