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Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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Post by entropie »

erellsworth wrote: post #89
manuelmoreale wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. You’re the first person to ask for same tab opening. But it might make sense for this particular case. I’ll have a think.

I'm the opposite. I actually wrote a small browser extension to make HN links open in a new tab because it annoys me so much. I can't disagree with what others have said about making it user-choice though. Maybe some kind of toggle switch that lets users set the behavior one way or the other would work?

You that you can open in new tabs with ctrl+click?

Just to be sure.

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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Post by yaddaor »

suoduandao2 wrote: post #91
yaddaor wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like that the mAiNStrEaM SIteS actually provide relevant results instead of placing fringe, absurd conspiracy theories first. Seems in line with Russian destabilisation campaigns though so maybe that on purpose? And providing rt.com's propaganda as #2 on "Ukraine invasion"? Totally not suspicious. OP asked for "manages to steer clear of hateful/racist/bigoted patterns of thought" though.

You'd probably come across better if you avoided having both russophobia and bigoteering in one post. One or the other would just imply you have strong opinions, both implies something much less value-neutral. If the last line was self-criticism reflecting that the russophobia is inconsistent with OP's request I apologize, that's not clear from your wording.

I included the comments about Russia because Yandex is participating in Russian propaganda and censorship.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/23/russia-yandex-...

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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Post by yaddaor »

narrator wrote: post #31
yaddaor wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like that the mAiNStrEaM SIteS actually provide relevant results instead of placing fringe, absurd conspiracy theories first. Seems in line with Russian destabilisation campaigns though so maybe that on purpose? And providing rt.com's propaganda as #2 on "Ukraine invasion"? Totally not suspicious. OP asked for "manages to steer clear of hateful/racist/bigoted patterns of thought" though.

How is the idea that the u.s government has a secret space program that is flying around the universe under our noses with godlike technology hateful/racist/bigoted? Is it now racist/hateful/bigoted to believe in alien technology conspiracies just because anything that's not official government information can be automatically labeled as such? I think the whole solar warden thing and the universe of b.s around it is…

Sorry, I guess I read other things into "hateful/racist/bigoted" than reasonable. Conspiracy theories have become so insanely dangerous that I saw red flags. Might be a language issue, I am from Estonia.

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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Post by prometheus76 »

erellsworth wrote: post #89
manuelmoreale wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. You’re the first person to ask for same tab opening. But it might make sense for this particular case. I’ll have a think.

I'm the opposite. I actually wrote a small browser extension to make HN links open in a new tab because it annoys me so much. I can't disagree with what others have said about making it user-choice though. Maybe some kind of toggle switch that lets users set the behavior one way or the other would work?

In chrome-based browsers, you can also middle-click (mouse wheel click) a link to open it as a new tab.

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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Post by bch »

manuelmoreale wrote: post #21

Few ways, in no particular order: - are.na seems to attract people who have odd interests and it’s full of quirky websites - webrings are still a thing and there’s a bunch out there worth checking out - directories like https://512kb.club/ are usually full of interesting sites - by following links on blogs and sites you find interesting - some cool forums are still out there ( https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php )…

> webrings are still a thing and there’s a bunch out there worth checking out

Oh wow. As an in-my-head joke, after I read the HN title, “web rings” was my answer to myself, casting my mind back to 1995… Imagine my delight to hear it’s still not only an answer, but a good one.

I don’t even know how much longer after Alta Vista vs Google “The Web” was interesting. My flip knee jerk assumption is Google optimized it all into the intellectual equivalent of the worst of children’s breakfast cereals. These days it’s HN and it’s community that serve as big role as jump-off point to interesting things.

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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Post by status200 »

manuelmoreale wrote: post #21

Few ways, in no particular order: - are.na seems to attract people who have odd interests and it’s full of quirky websites - webrings are still a thing and there’s a bunch out there worth checking out - directories like https://512kb.club/ are usually full of interesting sites - by following links on blogs and sites you find interesting - some cool forums are still out there ( https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php )…

Is there a way to report theforest.link sites? One of the first ones I was directed to is casually antisemitic

Re: Ask HN: How do you find the weird parts of the web?

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Post by anigbrowl »

I continue to like the chans for this. They have a bad reputation for bigotry but many chan users are just as hostile toward this as anyone else, and treat cesspools like /pol/ as containment boards whose malign attitudes need to be kept out of other boards. This is true even on 4chan itself, and there are many more obscure examples.

For that matter, even superficially toxic online spaces are often highly contested and exhibit recognizable dynamic patterns, notwithstanding the anonymity of the participants.

Alternatively, anything is possible at zombo.com.

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