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Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by jrochkind1 »

sergiotapia wrote: post #95
jrochkind1 wrote: post #70

I am not very familiar with any of these, but here is the short list of things I've compiled from past HN threads, that might be alternatives to heroku that provide similar affordances to heroku. Most of them I have done no more than look at the website and determine that, yeah, it was similar to heroku for my personal criteria of what makes something similar to heroku. (Some things suggested in past threads did not…

Some hands on experience with all of these, September 2022: Render.com - we use this for production at Grilla. Great experience, great platform. I wish I could pay them money to have my builds go faster but everything I want out of the box in places where you would think to look for them first. Fantastic dev ux. Never said, fuck I wish I had this and couldn't find it. Fly.io - still extremely rough around the edges a…

If you felt like saying more about what you liked about railway.app, it's advantages in comparison to heroku and render specifically, I would find it interesting!

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by jrochkind1 »

cguess wrote: post #100
jrochkind1 wrote: post #68

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Yep. I am getting pretty good support communications on this issue in heroku support tickets (you are not?), but the fact that they haven't actually made a public announcement about it is pretty unforgiveable. Last I heard from support, they thought the issue you are running into with backup restores would be solved maybe in the next week or two... but there is no public place to look for status or resolution, I just…

Heroku support answered my support ticket within a few hours (so good on them) with a canned response that pointed me to the article I had already referenced to them (not so good) and some hand waving "we're working on it." How they deploy this without figuring out a migration path first is beyond me. Someone... must have brought this up internally and been shot down I guess? The issue they say this was to mitigate i…

> Plus the "we're shutting down all your stuff" message today makes me scrambling for another service.

Wait, what? i didn't get that one! I don't think....

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by Macha »

itake wrote: post #13
appliku wrote: post #3

3 years ago, I tried Heroku and was quite impressed by it. Although the price is prohibitive for a hobby project that needed resources but wasn't generating any revenue, I had to start seeking other options. Ended up developing my own Heroku but focused on Django deployments. Three years later, it works like a charm and has many happy folks who thank me for making it. Meet Appliku: https://appliku.com

My main issue is the free redis and cheap postgres instances they provide for my low-traffic app.

I may have some bad news for you...

(Heroku are removing their free tier of everything)

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by cguess »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #102
cguess wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heroku support answered my support ticket within a few hours (so good on them) with a canned response that pointed me to the article I had already referenced to them (not so good) and some hand waving "we're working on it." How they deploy this without figuring out a migration path first is beyond me. Someone... must have brought this up internally and been shot down I guess? The issue they say this was to mitigate i…

> Plus the "we're shutting down all your stuff" message today makes me scrambling for another service. Wait, what? i didn't get that one! I don't think....

Log in and look at the notice at the top. All free services go away in November (the day after Thanksgiving weekend none-the-less, so have fun there). Upgrade your Postgres and Redis or you're screwed.

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by verdverm »

verdverm wrote: post #98
countspongebob wrote: post #86

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Heroku is very much alive. On your comment about what is to be expected.... stay tuned. Given that, I also don't want to forget the little bugs, I believe they are important to a great user experience. I think this is true for any product, but especially true for Heroku.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32594533 Doesn't look well received, Heroku is a dead product for devs.

@countspongebob, I hope you take HN's reaction back to your team & management. Not doing so, not replying, that will probably be the nail in the coffin from the HN crowd, which is highly influential in the industry.

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by rychco »

kgc wrote: post #80
rychco wrote: post #20

Had a hobby project on heroku that I've moved to render.com pretty painlessly. It's a simple rust (actix + sqlite) project. I now have a go (gin + sqlite) project that is intended to replace the rust project that I also plan to set up on render. Overall it's been incredibly pleasant & I've had no issues. To be clear though, these are very small/cheap projects between friends so I haven't needed to evaluate costs (bey…

Why did you choose go over rust?

I have more experience with Go + interact with it more regularly at work, whereas choosing Rust was mostly for fun/exploration. I realized I don't have the bandwidth currently to learn/debug a new language I'm unfamiliar with, especially when I don't have strong requirements for memory-safety or performance. This is just a hobby project for me, so I'm moving to a standard network stack that I'm comfortable with in Go.

I'm not completely abandoning Rust, however, as I am still using it for some other personal projects. I am having a good time writing CLI tools + cargo package management/build system is incredible.

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by bastawhiz »

countspongebob wrote: post #82
bastawhiz wrote: post #10

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Not just that, trivial bugs aren't getting fixed. The charts showing response times, for instance, sometimes go crazy when you change the settings for time window or interval.

Any other seemingly trivial bugs that are frustrating you? Would love to get your list.

My dude, I spent many thousands of dollars on Heroku over many years. I've reported bugs to customer support and nothing changed or improved, for years. I appreciate you're reaching out, but that bridge is burnt. The trust is gone. I ran into a bit of trouble getting set up with Render and one of their PMs reached out directly to learn more. Heroku replied to virtually all of my customer support issues with messages gaslighting me that the problems were my fault or "Try debugging your application with New Relic".
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