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Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by xsmasher »

Anyone have a suggestion for a JS/TS based framework where you manipulate the DOM by ID instead of generating HTML?

I work on a small custom site that has a particular workflow - a HTML/CSS guru creates the very-custom pages (no two are alike) in Webflow, then I jetpack in at the end and hook up the dynamic bits. My work is 90% hiding/showing elements and filling in text.

Anyone have suggestions for this kind of workflow, where the HTML is the source of truth about the layout/structure and I just fill in the data? The goal of the workflow is to allow the HTML guru to complete their portion + get it reviewed without eng help, and minimize the coordination needed between HTML and eng.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by gepardi »

topnde wrote: post #23

Javascript: SvelteJS Using it for some personal projects with Vite and it is a breath of fresh air. I use React for work during the day, but coding in Svelte just brings me joy.

React is really grinding my gears, lately.

Do you use something t like Redux with Svelte or is the approach different?

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by dbbk »

tootie wrote: post #55

My org is heavily invested in Ember and it sucks. We're into it for purely historical purposes. It was chosen by devs 2 generations past. It's not a terrible framework conceptually, but being invested in anything niche or out of fashion is such a burden. No one knows how it works, can't hire for it, updates are rare, hard to find integrations. I would not venture outside the mainstream if you can't afford to take big…

I was very keen on Ember for a long time, loved the batteries-included nature, generators etc. The closest thing React had was Next.js, and it was (still is) heavily restricted by its router. Although this is now changing.

Ember really lost momentum though. There were a bunch of releases that literally had "no changes". I think its time has just passed, sadly.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by dbbk »

When I worked at the BBC I was working on their notifications widget in the top nav bar. This would live above the fold on every BBC site, including News, Weather, iPlayer, Sport, etc. Therefore it had to be extremely small in bundle size, but I still wanted something nice and component-based so the code resembled something modern at least.

I ended up choosing Riot.js. Worked pretty nicely for the niche task I had for it.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by deverly »

I used Cappuccino for a couple apps years ago. It used Objective-J which was roughly Objective-C on top of JavaScript. It was essentially Mac OS Cocoa in the browser. Even much of Apple’s Cocoa documentation was useful for Cappuccino.

https://www.cappuccino.dev/

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by mhoad »

Having a really good time with both Flutter (Dart) and Lit (JS/TS Web Components) the past few months. Strongly would recommend both assuming you pick the right one for the right thing (I.e Flutter not well suited to entire classes of projects)

Both are doing some really cool forward thinking stuff, both have excellent developer experience and both are still currently not particularly popular on the web but expect them to both be huge in the next couple of years.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by ab_testing »

deverly wrote: post #105

I used Cappuccino for a couple apps years ago. It used Objective-J which was roughly Objective-C on top of JavaScript. It was essentially Mac OS Cocoa in the browser. Even much of Apple’s Cocoa documentation was useful for Cappuccino. https://www.cappuccino.dev/

Looks good but has not been updated in over 4 years.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by cyanydeez »

xsmasher wrote: post #101

Anyone have a suggestion for a JS/TS based framework where you manipulate the DOM by ID instead of generating HTML? I work on a small custom site that has a particular workflow - a HTML/CSS guru creates the very-custom pages (no two are alike) in Webflow, then I jetpack in at the end and hook up the dynamic bits. My work is 90% hiding/showing elements and filling in text. Anyone have suggestions for this kind of work…

Probably Lit webcomponents.

You'd just encapsulate the div sections ina custom component.

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by mhoad »

xsmasher wrote: post #101

Anyone have a suggestion for a JS/TS based framework where you manipulate the DOM by ID instead of generating HTML? I work on a small custom site that has a particular workflow - a HTML/CSS guru creates the very-custom pages (no two are alike) in Webflow, then I jetpack in at the end and hook up the dynamic bits. My work is 90% hiding/showing elements and filling in text. Anyone have suggestions for this kind of work…

Would this work for you? Not 100% I got the scope of the problem correct

https://lit.dev/docs/libraries/standalone-templates/

Re: Ask HN: Web frameworks – which less popular frameworks are you using and why?

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Post by jeremycarter »

kkarimi wrote: post #21

TypeScript: Nestjs If you have used a good batteries included MVC like Django before, you’ll feel at home. I made a production ready app in a few weeks with it and Prisma as ORM, that’s been the base of our startup and served us wonderfully. Can’t recommend it enough, as it is really powerful and is very extensible and as obvious by the number of plugins and examples available.

I also recommend NestJS. I can build something quickly that is modular and well structured.
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