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Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by mech422 »

akhmatova wrote: post #17
pc86 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're presenting opinions as if they are absolute facts above questioning. If you have a full-time job and you only need to do ~20 hours a week of work to complete all your deliverables, you could absolutely get another full-time job and have it go fine.

No, it won't "go fine". You'll be lying to both of your employers. That's not "fine" and it can't possibly end well for anyone.

My F500 gig specifically allows outside work as long as its not for a competitor...Why would you assume everyone is lying? Wouldn't it make more sense that some of us just have different (full time) employment contracts ?

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

#102

Post by akhmatova »

hamstrung wrote: post #31
akhmatova wrote: post #8

If you're two-timing on clients / employers (that is, plainly working two FT jobs at once) -- you can't expect that to end well. If you're working > 50 hours a week (or whatever your personal limit is) for more than 1-2 months -- that won't end well for your health or business relationships, either. That's the score, basically.

Your score isn't my score. My F/T job at a FAANG adds up to about 10 hrs/week at most.. sometimes 15 hrs due to extra meetings. Could easily fit in another job, but would rather sit in the sun and read a book.

It's not that you can't (logistically) fit another job in. Just that if you were to - it wouldn't end well. And would be like, you know, dishonest and unethical and all that stuff.

Am with you on the reading a book in the sun part, though. It's good to have that data point as to what people really do with their time out in FAANG-land.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by probIs8 »

mongol wrote: post #35
sithadmin wrote: post #29

FWIW, a lot of US employers report your current employment status, role and salary to databases like Equifax's 'The Work Number' - and nearly any organization that subscribes can view this data. HR departments DO look at this info and occasionally spot-check it to catch moonlighting employees. You can request your own data here: https://employees.theworknumber.com/

So much for keeping salaries secret. Amazing.

You should never believe the elites follow the rules they put on the proles

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

#104

Post by Kon-Peki »

sithadmin wrote: post #29

FWIW, a lot of US employers report your current employment status, role and salary to databases like Equifax's 'The Work Number' - and nearly any organization that subscribes can view this data. HR departments DO look at this info and occasionally spot-check it to catch moonlighting employees. You can request your own data here: https://employees.theworknumber.com/

Do your moonlighting under a single-member LLC with an EIN.

You can generally do this for less than $100 per year in your home state. It can be a challenge to get the IRS to issue an EIN to such an entity, but if you read the rules you can find the exact flowchart of yes/no questions to force them to do it (pro-tip: do that first, so you actually create the business properly). As a bonus, you'll probably end up with a 20% discount on your income come tax time ([1][2]).

[1] https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/2018ntf-twenty-percent-small...

[2] https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/td-reg-107892-18.pdf

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

#105

Post by sithadmin »

Kon-Peki wrote: post #104
sithadmin wrote: post #29

FWIW, a lot of US employers report your current employment status, role and salary to databases like Equifax's 'The Work Number' - and nearly any organization that subscribes can view this data. HR departments DO look at this info and occasionally spot-check it to catch moonlighting employees. You can request your own data here: https://employees.theworknumber.com/

Do your moonlighting under a single-member LLC with an EIN. You can generally do this for less than $100 per year in your home state. It can be a challenge to get the IRS to issue an EIN to such an entity, but if you read the rules you can find the exact flowchart of yes/no questions to force them to do it (pro-tip: do that first, so you actually create the business properly). As a bonus, you'll probably end up with…

Not going to work for the sort of use case this discussion thread seems to be aimed at - people that are working 2x (or more?) run-of-the-mill 'day jobs'.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

#106

Post by als0 »

HeyLaughingBoy wrote: post #75
filoleg wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having 2 jobs isn't inherently illegal. But pretty much every single full-time employment contract for an SWE that I've seen, stipulated that I am not allowed to have any other full-time job for the period of my employment.

To add an opposing anecdote, after 30 years in the biz I've never seen this. Not once.

It is real

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

#108

Post by randomhodler84 »

froaway4job wrote: post #93
randomhodler84 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I was going to spend some time justifying my rental portfolio but alas I fear it will fall on deaf ears. Thank you for your somewhat constructive criticism. I'm sorry to hear that you feel that way. Given your username, I assume you are just as worldly as I am. In that case, I hope your HODLing habits lead to success. Eventually, you will become the same "evil" that you despise... you will eventually become... me. HO…

Thank you! My post was overly emotional and it triggered me when I read you were landlording. Like — I have no issue with you drawing multiple wages, but then using that money to extort rent from working class folks just was a bridge too far for me.

As a renter I have experienced some really dirty actions from landlords, and given the drop in housing inventory, landchadding just seems exploitative with no gain for society.

There are many better investments that do not involve such depriving folks of the housing stock, don’t have the stress of dealing with people and better returns. Leasing property is like lazy stupid money that could do better elsewhere.

I don’t think money makes one evil. But one can use it in evil ways. I have done well over the years but I always to to consider what impact my investments have on the world or society.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by randomhodler84 »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #83
randomhodler84 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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IF the employers are happy with the work, or even not, nobody is getting exploited here. IF the work suffers, they are free to fire. For the properties, people need to rent from someone. Landlords are only scum if they mistreat their tenants.

I have no issue with employers being exploited, they would exploit you too. But the housing thing is gross — the reason housing is so distorted is that the wealthy are actively trying to deny folks access to housing. There are so many better ways.

Landlording is always a scum action. It is a personal choice to seek rent with no benefit to society while enriching oneself and preventing others from building their own wealth. Landlords hobble the middle class wealth generation, extract most of the gains from industry and then refuse to maintain their properties.

We need to make it so uncool to be a landlord. They are all scum, no exceptions.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

#110

Post by adamsmith143 »

b20000 wrote: post #94
gdfgjhs wrote: post #40

I am so confused with comments in this threads. Since when did tech employees became so submissive and scared? As far as I know, having 2 jobs is not illegal, not unethical. Many, sadly, low income families have to work two or more jobs. We in tech make enough but what if you are bored and need more challenges. My current second job is family but I know multiple single engineers (or in one case, with grown up kids) w…

I would not say that "we in tech make enough". with the crazy high cost of housing, health care, education, and more, it's no longer clear that people in tech make enough. people in the baby boomer generation could say that with much more confidence than our generation can.

Imagine someone making over 200K complaining about CoL when the median income in the US is 36K... Astonishing lack of self awareness
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