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Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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Not the same clubhouse, but is shortcut any good?

Trello too simple. JIRA too complex. Shortcut shits right in the sweet spot. Try it. It works well with small 2 man teams, and large 65 man teams.

Truly not sure if that’s a typo.

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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The most wild thing, to me, is how effectively it has been taken over by scam artists. The other day I tuned into a 'startup pitch' show where the premise is you pitch your company idea to an 'investor'. Unfortunately in practice the investor applauds your idea, and then claims he will 'invest' engineering time worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, but he needs you to 'prove you are serious' by investing tens of th…

This is how I remember most of the Clubhouse content during the initial popularity. There were exceptions such as famous VCs, authors, and tech people doing Q&A, but everything else felt like content marketers, online course sellers, and crypto scammers having a field day with their sudden access to a lot of bored and curious people. Outside of a few pre-scheduled and planned Clubhouse events, I never actually found…

Don’t forget all the “Life Coaches”

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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post #99

I downloaded the app on my iPad, because someone told me it was the new hotness. As soon as I started it, it was fixed to an iPhone window. This was about a year ago. No apps should ever do that. It means the app is crap quality. I nuked it, and forgot about it.

There are plenty of good reasons to dislike Clubhouse, but the lack of an iPad UI on day one is not one of them. When you're building something new, you have to prioritize, and insisting on polish like this just helps to entrench the big players.

That’s not what I’m talking about. It’s easy to write an iOS app that can adapt to an iPad. If it doesn’t, then that means that some kind of outdated hybrid system was used, or they hired the absolute cheapest coders they could find, that used fearfully primitive techniques (or both).

I’ve been writing iOS apps for many years, and have never written one that doesn’t immediately adapt to an iPad. Even my cruddiest, written-in-two-hours test harnesses run on iPads without that ghastly “2X” button. Heck, my very first ObjC “hello world” app adapted to iPads. It’s pretty much built into the SDK.

TBH, I’m not even sure how to get the 2X to appear.

But it’s not my app, or my money. I just didn’t want to waste my time on a bad app. I doubt that I’m the reason they face-planted.

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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The most wild thing, to me, is how effectively it has been taken over by scam artists. The other day I tuned into a 'startup pitch' show where the premise is you pitch your company idea to an 'investor'. Unfortunately in practice the investor applauds your idea, and then claims he will 'invest' engineering time worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, but he needs you to 'prove you are serious' by investing tens of th…

This is how I remember most of the Clubhouse content during the initial popularity. There were exceptions such as famous VCs, authors, and tech people doing Q&A, but everything else felt like content marketers, online course sellers, and crypto scammers having a field day with their sudden access to a lot of bored and curious people. Outside of a few pre-scheduled and planned Clubhouse events, I never actually found…

so basically the internet

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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My hypothesis is that a lot of the early hype was down to people who liked the idea of being part of an exclusive club but didn't really like when everyone else was also part of the club. Then twitter launched "Spaces", meaning people could have a similar experience to clubhouse without building yet another social network.

I’m always intrigued when I see someone make such a bold prediction. What did you base it on?

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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post #54

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But quora is still around and very useful- maybe even more so than during the hype period

The core "problem" with live audio is that you are drinking straight from the source of information as it is produced. With Quora, there is a ton of drivel or even spam, but that useless content sits around for a while and gets filtered out by some combination of moderation, voting, and search rankings. In contrast, with Clubhouse, you are instead highly reliant on personalities who are building reputation by having…

> you are instead highly reliant on personalities who are building reputation by having a high signal to noise ratio, which doesn't scale once the whole world is involved.

The major problem with any internet community, even moderated ones. It's just too much text, too many people, and no real conversations occur.

You could even see it decades ago on IRC servers, which solidifies my view that it's a fundamental social limitation not a technology problem. Groups always split from the #general channels into their own smaller cliques because once a server grew large enough, even a moderated #general was impossible to communicate in.

Too many people in one space is just not conducive to conversation and you also no longer get the self-moderation of pseudo social connections. Since there's no real conversations occurring in #general/any busy chat, it's just lots of, there's less need for people to care about what they say in regards to it's implication on others.

The absolute extreme of this phenomenon is a busy twitch chat, which is a sight to behold.

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how I remember most of the Clubhouse content during the initial popularity. There were exceptions such as famous VCs, authors, and tech people doing Q&A, but everything else felt like content marketers, online course sellers, and crypto scammers having a field day with their sudden access to a lot of bored and curious people. Outside of a few pre-scheduled and planned Clubhouse events, I never actually found…

so basically the internet

No, the traditional internet required that you be literate, be able to write, have an IQ > 45.

Already we saw sites like Medium attract lower quality content than blogs that require a certain amount of intelligence to set up.

Audio and video communication online is something Marshall McLuhan warned you about: take a look at TikTok if you don't believe me.

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