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Re: Ask HN: Is Apple down?

#102
post #73

Yep. Wife: My Apple Maps isn't working. Me: Hmm, it's not working for me either. They must be having server problems. You should use Google Maps for now. Wife: I can't download Google Maps either, the App Store doesn't seem to be working.

Both Apple Maps and Google Maps work in the browser, no need for an app.

Probably true, but we wanted it for driving directions via CarPlay and were in a bit of a rush. The car's built-in navigation (which we otherwise never use) ended up working fine, but the browser versions probably would have been my next attempt.

Re: Ask HN: Is Apple down?

#103
post #61
post #52

nslookup > server a.ns.apple.com Default server: a.ns.apple.com Address: 2620:149:ae0::53#53 Default server: a.ns.apple.com Address: 17.253.200.1#53 > developer.apple.com Server: a.ns.apple.com Address: 2620:149:ae0::53#53 developer.apple.com canonical name = developer-cdn.apple.com.akadns.net. ** server can't find developer-cdn.apple.com.akadns.net: REFUSED Ah. So Apple's own DNS servers are redirecting developer.ap…

I think something with DNSSEC: https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages-discussion/2022-Ma...

I noticed a few weeks ago that developer.apple.com was failing DNSSEC and that this had been going on for a while (follow the "previous analysis" links to see earlier errors as well):

https://dnsviz.net/d/developer.apple.com/Yidc2Q/dnssec/

It doesn't seem like many people have noticed or cared, so I doubt many people use DNSSEC at all and the whole system could (and should) be scrapped one day with barely anyone noticing.

lima has an anaylsis of the issue causing trouble:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30757487

Re: Ask HN: Is Apple down?

#105
post #70
post #52

nslookup > server a.ns.apple.com Default server: a.ns.apple.com Address: 2620:149:ae0::53#53 Default server: a.ns.apple.com Address: 17.253.200.1#53 > developer.apple.com Server: a.ns.apple.com Address: 2620:149:ae0::53#53 developer.apple.com canonical name = developer-cdn.apple.com.akadns.net. ** server can't find developer-cdn.apple.com.akadns.net: REFUSED Ah. So Apple's own DNS servers are redirecting developer.ap…

Can we refer to this as “Doing a Facebook?”

This has nothing to do with the BGP failures that FB had earlier. This is a DNS configuration problem. It's much simpler to fix.

Re: Ask HN: Is Apple down?

#106

My app update was rejected because my Upgrade screen was unable to fetch prices from their servers and instead showed an infinite spinner.

Would an infinite spinner also show up if the server was up but the connection was problematic? If yes, this would be about not handling network errors, which sounds like a decent rejection reason to me.

Re: Ask HN: Is Apple down?

#108
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think something with DNSSEC: https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages-discussion/2022-Ma...

I noticed a few weeks ago that developer.apple.com was failing DNSSEC and that this had been going on for a while (follow the "previous analysis" links to see earlier errors as well): https://dnsviz.net/d/developer.apple.com/Yidc2Q/dnssec/ It doesn't seem like many people have noticed or cared, so I doubt many people use DNSSEC at all and the whole system could (and should) be scrapped one day with barely anyone noti…

APPLE.COM isn't signed at all; this isn't a DNSSEC issue.

In the future, if you want to check if something is DNSSEC-signed (things rarely are: DNSSEC is overwhelmingly not enabled on the commercial Internet), you can just `host -t ds `.

Re: Ask HN: Is Apple down?

#109
post #61
post #52

nslookup > server a.ns.apple.com Default server: a.ns.apple.com Address: 2620:149:ae0::53#53 Default server: a.ns.apple.com Address: 17.253.200.1#53 > developer.apple.com Server: a.ns.apple.com Address: 2620:149:ae0::53#53 developer.apple.com canonical name = developer-cdn.apple.com.akadns.net. ** server can't find developer-cdn.apple.com.akadns.net: REFUSED Ah. So Apple's own DNS servers are redirecting developer.ap…

I think something with DNSSEC: https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages-discussion/2022-Ma...

AAPLIMG.COM isn't DNSSEC-signed either.
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