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Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

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#101
Since I am also an avid DSLR photographer, the first decision I made was to use Adobe Lightroom (Classic) as the "single source of truth" to manage all our photos.

This means obviously importing all photos taken via my DSLR into Lightroom, but also syncing all photos taken on our iPhones via the Lightroom Mobile App.

Lightroom Classic keeps all the (compressed) photos in the Adobe cloud for easy sharing and browsing, but also writes them out (unaltered) to a directory on my Local NAS.

This NAS gets automatically backed up via Arq Backup (https://www.arqbackup.com) to an encrypted Amazon S3 bucket. Additionally, once or twice a year I create a versioned copy of the NAS via Carbon Copy Cloner (https://bombich.com/) to an external hard drive. This hard drive is stored offsite somewhere safe.

In a nutshell, for around $12 a month + a NAS + a hard drive, we have all the convenience of the Adobe Lightroom cloud combined with a local copy on the NAS, a cloud copy on S3 (in case Lightroom cloud gets corrupted) and an offsite copy (in case our place and the whole internet burns down :-)).

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

#102
I recently spent a lot of time considering how to do my own storage and backups for a collection of mkv files I have. Your solution depends on how frequently you need to access the data, how frequently you need to modify the data and how frequently you need to add data to the archive.

For family photos, you might view them once every couple years, just to browse randomly. Every once in a while you might access the data with the intention of finding a specific photo. The data is of course never modified and only expanded once every five years or so.

So, low bandwidth, infrequent access and expansion and no modification. The winner by a mile is Blu-ray.

A hdd will de-magnetize over a very short period of time even if it’s stored in ideal condition. Less than a decade. You need to plug it in and let it refresh those tracks. If you keep it plugged in all the time then something else will die. Any way you slice it, there will be maintenance.

The data on a Blu-ray just sits there. It will outlast you.

Some Blu-ray Discs can have problems. This is because of improper materials and poor manufacturing. If the layers of plastic that sandwich the medium become delaminated or damaged in some way, this will lead to the oxidation of the data medium and loss of data. A properly manufactured disc like a Sony archival disc will never do that. And they make discs with data mediums that don’t oxidize so those ones can hypothetically last for thousands of years. Despite what people might say, a proper Blu-ray Disc is a great way to store data.

So here’s the deal. Get rid of duplicate pictures and pictures you don’t really care for. Compress as tightly as you can. Burn a copy of those files to a set of discs. Then another set of discs from another brand. And then another and continue however many times makes sense for your budget/ value of the data. Send each set to a different family member starting with the most remote. When it time to update the database, send out the latest discs.

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

#103

Stored on a Synology NAS, and indexed by PhotoPrism. I backup the entire NAS to a Google cloud encrypted bucket every night, and once a quarter or so update a backup on a solid state drive I keep in a safe.

Do family members know how to access said system if something were to happen to you?

My husband has access to the PhotoPrism web UI, but he'd have no idea how to access a backup or anything like that.

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

#104

> is there any way to guarantee these heirlooms remain intact and available Are they actually heirlooms? If the goal is to keep these safe so generations can continue to not look at them, what's the point? If you haven't looked at something in years, odds are nobody wants to look at them.

The actual object is less important than the exercise and the discussion. Substitute "photo albums" for "medical records", "civil certificates", "passwords + 2FA codes for all DeFi wallets" if you want.

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

#105
Tech solution: iCloud, which mirrors them across all devices, then automatic backups of a Mac and a PC where those files are stored into a RAID nas.

Non tech solution: I just print everything. I refill canon cartridges, making the cost of ink negligible and buy cheapish 4x6 photo paper, and I just print like crazy. After some basic calibration, the prints are quite good enough. I guess longevity of the aftermarket inks is still to be seen. Wife enjoys just picking up some prints to send friends and family. She snaps a pic of whatever she sent, and I reprint those.

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

#106
We keep all of our pictures on an external USB hard drive. At least once a month or after a large addition of pictures I back it up to my NAS ~30TB in the basement using rsync. That backup gets sent a few hundred miles away to a server (really, just an ancient, headless desktop running Debian tucked under a family member's desk!) with a large HD (12TB) via Syncthing. Syncthing is set to be one-way, pushing changes from my backup to the remote server only.

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

#107
post #67

I burn 25 GB M-DISCs every few months. If I were being properly rigorous I'd be burning three copies and putting two of them in different physical places. Printing out the occasional photo book of our favorites is also a part of the strategy - if our grandkids want to see photos of our lives after we're dead, they won't need to worry about lapsed hosting bills or ancient storage technology. They can just look at the…

Plus one to this. A Blu-ray is durable, maintenance free and most importantly extremely common. Anyone can use one and this will likely be true for a long time. There will be people around who can get data off Blu-ray’s for an exceedingly long time.

But printed images are the ultimate. They require no extraction whatsoever.

Re: Ask HN: What is your system for backing up family photos and video?

#110

Every year I do a photo book. Used to use apple but they discontinued the service so now it’s snapfish. It’s a lot of work to create but worth it

I do the same. Whitewall are very good quality. They also make excellent gifts.
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