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Re: Ask HN: Has remote work made you move to a new location or consider it?

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I get the diversity thing but depending on the small town you can get more than SF some times. My neighborhood in SF is 90% white. But the tech things rings true. However, my only counter is that having a strong community that has nothing to do with work is pretty cool too.

> My neighborhood in SF is 90% white White is not a culture. Skin colour is orthogonal with cultural diversity. Amsterdam is also 80-90% white but is incredibly diverse with all sorts of people from all sorts of places and backgrounds.

Point taken.

Let me refine by saying my neighborhood in SF is 90% white, Democrat voting, can’t-get-off-the-hedonistic-treadmill culture, love to talk about progressive ideals while voting for restrictive policies that hurt residents.

I lived in a swing state a long time ago and it was actually nice interacting with people from a lot of different backgrounds, none of which dominated the culture. You could go to a rave with some anarchist one weekend and go deer hunting with an evangelical Christian the next.

Re: Ask HN: Has remote work made you move to a new location or consider it?

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Yes. My son was born at the beginning of the pandemic and raising him in Toronto was hell on earth. I bought a house to be closer to my family and have more space for my son to grow up in.

Given the housing crisis in Canada it was not possible for me to buy in Toronto. Seems I was ahead of the curve because the insane housing prices seem to have expanded out from the city to pretty much everywhere but I was lucky enough to manage to get something for a reasonable price.

Re: Ask HN: Has remote work made you move to a new location or consider it?

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I would not… 10 years ago I left the big city I used to live in (and where I was born: Milan, Italy) to move to the French Riviera! I have nice house less than a 100m from the beach, sea view… and in France we work 35h a week with 35 days of vacation a year! It was great already before telework… now it is simply amazing!

I'm actually surprised that American remote tech folks aren't pouring into Europe where the quality of life is an order of magnitude better (especially on a US salary). And it's especially more viable now with all the digital nomad visas. https://nomadgirl.co/countries-with-digital-nomad-visas/

I think that the average american (USA) has no idea how good is the life in Europe.. They think we are all communists or they are very affectionated to the USA life style

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I live in a remote area of Pakistan, a very beautiful place 100000% opposite of main Pakistan. I work for a US based company from here. The biggest expense is internet (200 USD per month sett-lite based internet). All others are home grown like fruits, vegetable, flour, egg, meat. I will not move to any other place permanently. However travel Dubai, Turkey and Thailand once in a year to grab beer! I love this rhythm…

I work with someone in your exact situation on my remote team. The time zone difference is challenging but we’ve made it work and he is a very bright developer who I find invaluable to our team. I asked him one day if he ever wanted to move to America or Canada and his answer was the same as yours. It’s always interesting to get takes from outside of your cultural bubble. I am very happy where I am but I would be lying if I said your situation is not appealing to me (even if only for a little while).

Re: Ask HN: Has remote work made you move to a new location or consider it?

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Moved FROM a big city TO a small suburb in a smaller 'big' city.

PROS:

- Can rent a house > renting a studio - More time outside - More outdoor activities like biking, hiking, etc - Get to have a car

CONS: - Limited food options (esp for vegans) - Less city walking (which was hardly ever less than 10k steps) leading to being very sedentary some days - Have to maintain a car and have no access to public transportation - Less diverse friend groups

OVERALL - Worth it for now

Re: Ask HN: Has remote work made you move to a new location or consider it?

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My wife and I moved from California to the mountains of Central Arizona about 23 years ago. Living away from any large cities is definitely a pain sometimes (we can get to Flagstaff or Prescott in an hour). We temporarily moved, renting out our house, for gigs at Google and Capital One, but have otherwise stayed out here because we have so many local friends. Both times we enjoyed culture and other perks of living in real cities.

Living in more remote areas is less expensive and perhaps a healthier life style. When I go to places like NYC for business I probably walk an average of an hour a day, at home I probably average 1 1/2 hours a day.

Anyway, it is a difficult decision for you to make because there are advantages to both options.

Re: Ask HN: Has remote work made you move to a new location or consider it?

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When covid hit I was already working remotely as a freelancer for a while. My SO on the other hand was going to the office in a big city. In June 2020 when it became clear that she was going to work from home for an extended period of time, we bought a house in a remote place and we've been living there since.

The house itself is small but we both have our dedicated 8m2 "office" which is key in my opinion. Internet is 4G only so I built a Linux router with a good modem and high gain antennas, it has worked wonderfully for remote work even if the latency is not amazing.

We both love nature and the ability to just step outside and go for a walk in a nice landscape whenever we feel like it is amazing. Back in the big city we needed to drive one hour to get away from the concrete.

Re: Ask HN: Has remote work made you move to a new location or consider it?

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Pre-covid I bounced but also set myself up to have relatively stable home bases. This includes resident visas in countries that do not require me to spend a lot of time in those specific countries and international real estate. At the moment I am mostly stationary but I still have projects and/or goals in at least 4 different countries.

Where is your base? Any recommendations for setting up this arrangement?

It's been a few years since I've seriously looked into some of these places so things may have changed or I am not remembering 100% correctly. Also, some countries listed below require a certain level of passive income as well but I'm not 100% sure which ones.

You can apply for residency in places like Mexico which require very little physical presence to maintain/renew a visa for the first few years. After 3 years (I think) you have to live there for the last 18 months before applying for citizenship.

Chile is the opposite in where you must spend the first 18 months in the country but after that you only really need to be there once a year.

Other countries have generous tourist visas like Turkey. If you rent an apartment for one year in Turkey (anywhere, for any price) you can get a 1 year tourist visa.

Wikipedia has a list of all countries visa policies as well. You could find out about where you are allowed to stay for longer than 90 days somewhere by searching for "visa policy of $COUNTRY".

Then there are places offering visas for remote workers but requires you to live there for at least 6 months of the year (making you a tax resident of that country). This includes places like Portugal, Estonia, Georgia, and the UAE.

I believe in Georgia and the UAE they will not charge income tax for the first year as well but I may be wrong.

If you have deeper pockets there are Golden Visa programs for places like Portugal, Greece, Malta, Cyprus (might be wrong on this one), New Zealand, Georgia, Montenegro, and many Caribbean nations.

Lastly, most every country in the world has some sort of business owners or startup visa. If you're entrepeneurially minded and have sufficient startup capital, you can get a visa pretty much anywhere in the world.

EDIT: I use travelingmailbox.com for snail mail and OpenPhone to maintain US-based communication for whatever reason.

Re: Ask HN: Has remote work made you move to a new location or consider it?

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I did and I regret it deeply. I was working remotely even pre-covid times and I decided to leave London (where housing was becoming a nightmare) to move to Sweden. I have never been this deeply lonely in my entire life. I love the nature, I love the winter, even the darkness, but socially this was a very bad move. Working remotely when you live close to a big city where you are very fluent in the language is not even…

I'm sorry to hear that. I think Sweden can be a difficult culture to integrate into. If you live near Stockholm and would like to meet up I'd be happy to introduce you to my group of friends. My e-mail is in my profile.
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