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Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

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Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#103

I'm sure everybody has a different takeaway, but here's mine: make sure hospice is on the table, and read between the lines about what the different doctors are telling you. Do extensive research and advocate on your mother's behalf. There are doctors who specialize in hospice and you want to bring them to the table early even if the prognosis is currently good. I'd go to meetings with my Mom's cancer team and hear t…

For technical detail, a prognosis of six months or less typically makes hospice an option in the US.

On a personal note, I am sorry for your loss.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#104

From my experience with cancer in my family, I think the number one thing I would recommend is that you should remember to keep treating your mother as the normal person she is, and not as a cancer patient. A lot of her life is going to be cancer this, cancer that, these drugs and those drugs, doctors A, B, C, and D, and always an another upcoming appointment on the calendar. It's tiring for her and it's hard to main…

Terminal cancer patient here, this advice is perfect. Goal is to live as normally as possible. I super appreciate all the support of my friends and family, I just don't want them to treat me too differently.

Former cancer patient here.

My biggest immediate concern was the impact on family, and them viewing me differently and treating me as a sort of victim. Due to extreme rarity of my particular cancer the outcome was individually unpredictable. Overall the odds of survival are very low and death is often quick; a recent research paper uses the phrase "a grim affair" right in the title (some doctors get excited to see a singular case in their professional career and then publish a case report). It was simply unknowable at the time whether it was terminal or not.

What to do?

I expressly forbade my family to do any research and try to be medically helpful, including my wife who is a tenure-track science professor. Also I banned any form of pity.

I kept up social connections as well as I could, went on hiking trips in the mountains with insanely low PLT counts, attended big weddings in five different countries during chemo, and took other – in hindsight outrageous – risks just to keep living life. The pandemic has been much worse socially than very intense and prolonged chemo treatment.

I never asked about any kind of prognosis, although I had pulled the data from SEER as the most unbiased data source and assembled the L-shaped KM curves from that myself. Doctors only later admitted they thought things were "very bad".

A perhaps selfish thing I did was to avoid other patients during treatment (though my oncologist liked discussing other cases with me, as we never had to debate anything about my own case). The emotional burden would have been too large. I had observed in a FB group how entire families become obsessed with cancer and cannot pull themselves away from that many years after their loved one has passed away.

My family and friends mostly stuck with the rules and emotional damage was largely avoided.

The worst feeling for me as a patient was not impending doom but a loss of control. Certainly some will enjoy "being taken care of" and whatnot but that is not everyone's style. Let the patient decide which approach is right for them.

Every patient is different. Please respect their express wishes, even if that involves taking a step back from being overly helpful and involved.

Medically, I actually disagreed with some of the decisions from my – very competent and highly rated – doctors, and they were fine with that and followed the modified plan. Nobody can know whether this made a difference but things seem to have worked out surprisingly well for me.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#105
So sorry to hear about your mother. I just went through this with my father-in-law and will share some of the things we are most grateful for looking back.

* My partner told her employer right away and they were unbelievably supportive throughout the process, giving her PTO, understanding when she wasn't able to perform 100%, and always encouraging her to put her dad first. Not all employers are this great, but you may be surprised by how yours reacts

* We all practiced being in the moment, doing our best to enjoy each moment, especially the little things (e.g. lunch outside in the sun)

* There were ups and downs in his treatment and every "up" was an excuse to spend as much quality time together as possible

* We temporarily moved to be closer to him, both to help provide care and to spend as much with him as we could

I don't know where you are in your career or what constraints you might have, but if you can afford it my advice to you is to put your mother first always. Be transparent with your employer, ask for their support, and don't put up with any bullshit if it comes your way.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#106
NOTE: I'm not a medical professional. Chemotherapy is likely to negatively affect the gut's microbiome, potentially adding to the patient's problems. Restoring the gut's health after each chemo round could be required. This article may help. https://theclaraclinic.com/blog-home/when-chemotherapy-damag...

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#107

I have gone through this situation. In 2002 my mother passed away from cancer. It was by far the hardest and lowest point in my life. I won't go on about all the difficulties because they're too painful and personal to me, and your mother may not be terminal, but mine was so I'll speak from that experience. Here's what I wish I would have done more of: 1. Spend as much time as possible. Lay by her, watch TV, eat toge…

#4 --> compassion

It still strikes me when I hear the etymology of compassion, - com : with - passion : suffer

basically to suffer alongside with which is much more profound than any soft warm fuzzy mental state, suffering is a physical state. You suffered alongside your mother and that is truly noble.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#108
I lost my mom to cancer when she was only 40 years old.

She went through 2 surgeries, multiple rounds of chemo, radiation therapy, the the whole nine yards and this went on for three years (she was in remission for a year).

Anyway, based on my experience, cancer is bullshit. That being said, you _can_ live with it. You have to remember that for a loving mother, you're her light and hope and this means that now it's time to pull up your sleeves and get to work.

Take her to all the appointments, get her all the medications she needs, take her for walks (cancer has good days and bad) and give her healthy food and the treats you know she likes. Watch movies and do silly stuff to make her laugh. Look over family pictures and tell her about your future plans.

Don't be upset if she acts differently around you, your job is to make her feel protected and cared for.

Cancer is the ultimate poison in life but you're breathing life into her and having your company warms her heart. Don't give cancer an inch because fuck that disease.

As I'm typing this, I would give up everything I have right now to spend another second with my mom because let me remind you that nothing and I mean nothing is more precious than the bond you have with your family. Screw "daily tasks" at work, all the money in the world will not replace your mom.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#109

From my experience with cancer in my family, I think the number one thing I would recommend is that you should remember to keep treating your mother as the normal person she is, and not as a cancer patient. A lot of her life is going to be cancer this, cancer that, these drugs and those drugs, doctors A, B, C, and D, and always an another upcoming appointment on the calendar. It's tiring for her and it's hard to main…

There is a chinese movie about how in China people often don't tell cancer patients that they have cancer until it is well too late in order to let them live with as much normality as possible for as long as possible. The operation involves a doctor having a private conversation with a relative, and being complicit in the pretense

Same concept. American/Chinese movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Farewell_(2019_film)
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