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Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by yabatopia »

agys wrote: post #96
riqbal wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for the info. I just searched and found this post https://www.sinosplice.com/life/archives/2018/11/15/e-ink-fo...

Yes. That's the bigger one! It's strange that the list of buses is sorted by bus number and not by time… Also: finally a display where advertisement is probably not so attractive.

> It's strange that the list of buses is sorted by bus number and not by time…

You don't randomly hop on the first bus that arrives at your bus stop. You need the bus that brings you to your desired destination. The bus number is important to know you're on the right bus. Sorting by bus number makes it easier to scan for arrival time of the bus you actually need.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by tda »

yabatopia wrote: post #101
agys wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. That's the bigger one! It's strange that the list of buses is sorted by bus number and not by time… Also: finally a display where advertisement is probably not so attractive.

> It's strange that the list of buses is sorted by bus number and not by time… You don't randomly hop on the first bus that arrives at your bus stop. You need the bus that brings you to your desired destination. The bus number is important to know you're on the right bus. Sorting by bus number makes it easier to scan for arrival time of the bus you actually need.

Also, every route can be displayed on the board, even if the next ten buses are all on a different route with better service. Better to have the next bus for every route than just the next expected buses

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by sellweek »

kimi wrote: post #88
enricozb wrote: post #44

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I have never been able to get EPUBs to reliably work on remarkable. My solution is to convert them to PDFs.

I use them all the time. Never had any issue.

I also use reMarkable as a (pretty good) EPUB reader, but it is really slow when opening the book for the first time or changing the rendering settings (font size, margins, etc.).

It can sometimes take a minute or two and sometimes it just hangs completely and you have to close the book and re-open it. I assume it's because it has to somehow render the whole book, to support the handwritten annotations and put them in correct places.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by chacha2 »

droidno9 wrote: post #90
ipsum2 wrote: post #8

Have you looked at https://remarkable.com/ ? It's a little smaller, 12" diagonal. Dasung sells a 13.3" e-ink monitor: https://www.amazon.com/Dasung-Paperlike-13-3-E-Ink-Monitor/d...

I would buy the reMarkable in a heartbeat if it was indeed a 12" display. Alas, the screen is only 10.3".

Does 2 inches really make that much difference?

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by arendtio »

lostgame wrote: post #66
mortenjorck wrote: post #63

I've long wondered why electrophoretic displays (the generic term for E Ink, which is a proprietary name) continue to be exponentially more expensive at sizes larger than a Kindle while other technologies like OLED have become vastly more affordable in larger formats over a similar timeframe. The best I can tell is that there just hasn't been an investment in scaling up fabrication anywhere near what the likes of LG…

But e-ink technology isn’t ready to go out of the gate - the refresh rate is still a significant issue that makes it virtually purposeless for much beyond reading. If it is at this point, it just didn’t happen quickly enough.

A few years ago those Pixel Qi displays had quite acceptable refresh rates (the Notion Ink Adam had one of those displays):

https://youtu.be/193w4JLm5hE?t=286

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by heavenlyblue »

keanzu wrote: post #77
ipsum2 wrote: post #72

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This is what Apple is doing with True Tone.

Clay Bavor published in Dec 2015 but Apple filed their patent on March 30, 2015 - seems Apple just got in under the wire there. http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=H...

So Clay Bavor did _not_ invent that

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by baq »

frosted-flakes wrote: post #43
dheera wrote: post #39

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Can anyone comment on the difficulty (for a hacker) of using Remarkable with Kindle books? I have a Kindle already, if that makes a difference in generating DRM-free files of content I already purchased reading rights to.

It is trivial to convert DRM'd Kindle e-books you own into epub or other formats. Check out Calibre and the Apprentice Alf plugin. https://calibre-ebook.com/ https://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/

has something changed? it used to be easy but looks like there's a per-device encryption support in new kindles.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by droidno9 »

chacha2 wrote: post #104
droidno9 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would buy the reMarkable in a heartbeat if it was indeed a 12" display. Alas, the screen is only 10.3".

Does 2 inches really make that much difference?

Depends on who you ask... ;)

Kidding aside, my primary use case is reading and annotating pdf textbooks and legal documents. I used a 10.5" iPad Pro for over a year for that and, while doable, not very pleasant for my eyes after a couple of hours of reading. Upgraded to the 12.9" iPad Pro this year and my eyes felt noticeably more relaxed even after 4-5 hours of reading and working on the iPad.

Ideally, reMarkable would make an XL version that closely resembles the aspect ratio and size of a 8.5x11 paper, but I'd settle for something slightly smaller with that aspect ratio.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by te0006 »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #61
j88439h84 wrote: post #47

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Onyx boox note pro is expensive but fwiw I really like it.

Are you using it as an external display? Is it seamless as in traditional color monitor albeit the refresh rate?

The BOOX MAX 2 sadly doees not expose its full native resolution through the external monitor interface which is a real shame. Worse, none of the supported resolutions are integer fractions of the native resolution so scaling artifacts are unavoidable. It doesn`t even seem possible to sacrifice some border area and use a suitably-sized subwindow of the screen (e.g. FHD 1920x1080) without scaling. (If somebody knows better, please leave a comment) Onyx pretends there is no problem and cheerfully tells frustrated users to adjust their OS theme and font sizes, over and over again [1]. Shame on them for ruining what could have been a great and unique feature. because wouldn`t it be for this problem, the MAX2 would finally be a decent sunlight-ready external laptop screen, at least for text writing and some light coding. Well perhaps the problem is solved in the new MAX3 device.

[1] http://bbs.onyx-international.com/t/max2-hdmi-not-useable-wr...

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by luka-birsa »

Large format E-ink displays are currently used primarily in digital signage scenarios (outdoor advertising, passenger information systems,...) - examples are Soofa (http://www.soofa.co/) and Mercury Innovation (https://www.mercuryinnovation.com.au/digital-bus-stop).

The largest size currently available is 42" and it is used in outdoor and indoor scenarios. Indoor use is for education purposes as a digital whiteboard - see Quilla (https://www.engadget.com/2017-01-03-quirklogic-s-quilla-is-a...).

None of these are especially applicable for home use due to the price tag (just to be clear, the display itself is very expensive). What you could do is use Sonys larger format eInk tablet, use Remarkable EInk tablet or hack your own solution from an older Kobo reader.

We're offering solutions somewhere in the middle - traditionally we were focused on SME, where our devices are being used as universal digital signage (http://www.visionect.com) or tailored for room booking (http://getjoan.com), so a bit pricy for home use. But we just launched a 6" device called Joan Home (https://getjoan.com/shop/joan-home/) that syncs to your calendar and are looking to expand it with new functionality in the future. We're thing of integrations with home automation, pomodoro timer, IFTTT, etc...

Comments on the Joan Home are welcome - as we're actively thinking of developing this into a more feature rich product in next two months.

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