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Ask HN: Most sustainable diet long term?

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Re: Ask HN: Most sustainable diet long term?

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--READ-- Reading all the comments on this thread is pretty funny. I was a trainer for many years and the strategy (note that it’s a strategy rather than a diet) that was most successful takes years to complete with the goal of never doing too much at once. Take the worst thing in your diet. Over the next few weeks, replace it with something slightly better. When your body starts accepting it, move on to the next wors…

How to replace ice cream?

For us we started making ice cream at home. It didn't replace it, but by making it ourselves we were able to tune the recipe over time to be something that we enjoy, but slowly replace or reduce the things we didn't want. The recipe we make now is:

    0.5 c.    Cream
    1.5 c.    Milk
    0.5 c.    Sugar (or substitute; we use Splenda)
    1.0 pinch Salt
    0.5 tsp.  Vanilla
    Up to one cup of flavor
For flavor we just blend whatever we think will be good. Bananas are good, strawberries, raspberries. Most fruits are pretty good, but weakly flavored. A spoonful of sugar-free jelly helps add a little punch to the flavors.

We got a good deal on a Breville [1], but you can get by just fine with a ~$50 one and some experimenting.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BCI600XL-Smart-Scoop-Cream/d...

Re: Ask HN: Most sustainable diet long term?

#102
post #49

I like the Scott Adams approach to just pre-preparing carrots and celery in small containers in your fridge. Design the system so that when you go to snack, the healthy things are what is available. For coffee, I only add cinnamon to black coffee. No sugar. If you like ice cream, try making it yourself, once you see how much sugar goes in a pint, you kind of get sick to your stomach about eating it.

I always wondered if there was a calorie free (or very low calorie) way to make coffee less bitter?

Some cinnamon varieties add some mild non caloric sweetness

Re: Ask HN: Most sustainable diet long term?

#103
post #96

Try eating only whole plant foods (vegan). It's better for you, for animals, and the planet. Whole foods means unprocessed. Avoid concentrated or processed grains, sugar, and oil. So no flour, bread, or sugar. Just avoid grains entirely except for steel-cut unprocessed oats. Whole vegetables means potatoes, Japanese sweet potato, carrots, cauliflower, tomatoes, broccoli, etc. Whole fruits means bananas, oranges, avoc…

To tack onto this: eat legumes for energy, add spinach/kale/etc to parent's list, and take a legitimate B12 supplement[1]. Source: was an athletic vegan for a long time. 1. I use "Garden of Life B12 Vitamin - mykind Organic Whole Food B-12 for Metabolism and Energy, Raspberry, 2oz Liquid". I went from B12 deficient to B12 adequate on blood tests, so it works (for me). It's also worth pointing out that I eat a lot of…

Yeah great points. B12 is produced by a bacteria that lives in animal (and human) small intestines. It's not clear why it lives in some humans and not others, so the only way to ensure you're getting it is to take a supplement (or eat animal products since animals are supplemented). Nutritional yeast does not contain B12 unless they're fortified with it.

Contrary to Wikipedia and popular belief, B12 producing bacteria has been found in human small intestines (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7354869). It's just not clear why it lives in some people and not in others. Prior to modern hygiene practices vegetarian humans and animals probably got it from ingesting feces (in contaminated water or food fertilized with feces).

https://veganhealth.org/intestinal-bacteria-as-b12-source/#s...

Re: Ask HN: Most sustainable diet long term?

#104
post #49

I like the Scott Adams approach to just pre-preparing carrots and celery in small containers in your fridge. Design the system so that when you go to snack, the healthy things are what is available. For coffee, I only add cinnamon to black coffee. No sugar. If you like ice cream, try making it yourself, once you see how much sugar goes in a pint, you kind of get sick to your stomach about eating it.

I always wondered if there was a calorie free (or very low calorie) way to make coffee less bitter?

Have you tried cold-brewed coffee? Water can be added as needed to reduce bitterness without affecting the flavor too hard. But you may want to ask yourself if the problem is bitterness, or that you just don't actually like the flavor of coffee.

Re: Ask HN: Most sustainable diet long term?

#105
post #7

The canonical advice, as someone already wrote is: "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants." I'd add: - Eat mostly what your grand-grandparents would identify as food (e.g. no preprocessed stuff, no chips, etc). - Don't eat constantly. Leave 14+ hours that you don't much (if you sleep 8 hours that's just 6-wake hours off of food). - Don't eat refined sugars, wheat, etc. Whole grain is OK. - Mediterranean diet has been…

Very great advice. A little nitpick - lifting small dumbbells is probably useless. The main benefits from weightlifting come through Progressive Overload, where those small weights must necessarily\* turn into big weights. If (s)he must stick to small weights, there is a very small window of benefit to weight lifting. \* - note that in Progressive Overload you can also increase total number of reps (the true metic is…

> lifting small dumbbells is probably useless.

Depends on what your goals are.

If your goal is improved health, any type of exercise that gets your heart rate going is better than doing nothing at all.

If your goal is building habits and routine, getting to a gym and exercising is better than not exercising.

If your goal is increased strength or muscle mass, then you're right.

Re: Ask HN: Most sustainable diet long term?

#106
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To add to this: meal habits are important. Try eating 20% slower and more mindfully. Note how full you feel at any given moment, and stop when you're 80% full.

This is still my biggest problem. I'll still scarf down a 2LB steak and then regrets it. ---- Can you please elaborate on different methods you've used in the past (current) to help slow down your eating habits, please.

Me and my wife get her tablet in the kitchen and play a video of a game tournament on it while eating and discussing it.

It helped us enjoy our meals and eat slower.

Having a slight distraction while eating is IMO the key.

Re: Ask HN: Most sustainable diet long term?

#107
post #30

--READ-- Reading all the comments on this thread is pretty funny. I was a trainer for many years and the strategy (note that it’s a strategy rather than a diet) that was most successful takes years to complete with the goal of never doing too much at once. Take the worst thing in your diet. Over the next few weeks, replace it with something slightly better. When your body starts accepting it, move on to the next wors…

how to replace sugar in coffee? I can not live without it.

I used to be a light and sweet guy but just slowly tapered back on the sugar. I eventually switched to half and half and currently go no sugar with a bit of half and half. I seriously can’t stomach the sweetness of how I used to drink it.

Re: Ask HN: Most sustainable diet long term?

#108

Whole30 or Paleo. No sugar. Read labels. If you are just getting started I recommend trying the Whole30 plan. If you can power through for 30 days it really can change how you eat.

No evidence to support Whole30. In fact, it excludes beans and legumes which are an excellent source of protein and fiber.

What are you comparing it to as a foundation for you comment? It includes lots of meat which is also a great source or protein.

My wife and I both dropped a ton of weight and changed our eating habits for life. Like all diets your milage might vary.

Re: Ask HN: Most sustainable diet long term?

#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how to replace sugar in coffee? I can not live without it.

Try replacing the sugar with fat. Use cream or half and half. For a latte, ask for it to be made "brevee" (brev-aye) which indicates half and half usage. For coffee, I will do 50/50 half and half with coffee. It is quite delicious.

Anyone considering this, breve is almost 3 times the calories of 2% milk (standard latte). While I agree that fat is probably better than sugar, it’s not a calorie cutting decision here.

Re: Ask HN: Most sustainable diet long term?

#110
This can never be generalized. You should try to stick with things you like in moderation. ( writing this because I lose 20kgs plus last year )

Since you mentioned you cannot work out -

- Start measuring your calories - Eat in a calorie deficit - Try intermittent fasting - Try to eat vegetables with every meal ( fills you up + takes care of macronutrients ) - Cheat once in a while to keep you motivated

This cheat sheet worked for me. Try to find 4-5 dishes you can prepare easily, which you like. Repeat them - if you get bored maybe change them up after a month or so.

They key is not to feel like in a diet. Just eat normally, but eat less and eat smart.

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