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Re: Ask HN: Where can I buy real software companies?

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A $500k business would mean you'll end paying on average between $3-5 million for it. May I ask your rationale behind chasing these deals? Why not split the $3-5 million into risk-based chunks and invest in startups instead? You only need 1 of them to hit 50x.

I don't think that multiple is right - for a $500k rev software company, I wouldn't pay any more than 3x.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I buy real software companies?

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I sold Bingo Card Creator through FEI ( http://feinternational.com ) and have nothing but good things to say about them. Something like 20% of their listings are SaaS businesses. The going rate for a SaaS business is roughly 3X yearly SDC ("seller discretionary cashflow" -- revenue minus costs required to run the business as opposed to e.g. the owner's salary, distributions, interest expense, etc). It is closer to 2X…

Patrick's talk at Microconf on selling Bingo Card Creator was fascinating—nice set of notes at http://doubleyouraudience.com/microconf/patio11/

Re: Ask HN: Where can I buy real software companies?

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post #8

I sold Bingo Card Creator through FEI ( http://feinternational.com ) and have nothing but good things to say about them. Something like 20% of their listings are SaaS businesses. The going rate for a SaaS business is roughly 3X yearly SDC ("seller discretionary cashflow" -- revenue minus costs required to run the business as opposed to e.g. the owner's salary, distributions, interest expense, etc). It is closer to 2X…

Patrick's talk at Microconf on selling Bingo Card Creator was fascinating—nice set of notes at http://doubleyouraudience.com/microconf/patio11/

I'll write about this more in the near future -- don't want to step on a Starfighter announcement coming up though.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I buy real software companies?

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post #8

I sold Bingo Card Creator through FEI ( http://feinternational.com ) and have nothing but good things to say about them. Something like 20% of their listings are SaaS businesses. The going rate for a SaaS business is roughly 3X yearly SDC ("seller discretionary cashflow" -- revenue minus costs required to run the business as opposed to e.g. the owner's salary, distributions, interest expense, etc). It is closer to 2X…

Off topic, but: I like your blog! Thanks!

Re: Ask HN: Where can I buy real software companies?

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post #6

A $500k business would mean you'll end paying on average between $3-5 million for it. May I ask your rationale behind chasing these deals? Why not split the $3-5 million into risk-based chunks and invest in startups instead? You only need 1 of them to hit 50x.

Only if growth is 6%-10% per year (or as much as twice that depending on who you ask), and you have reasonable expectation of that growth continuing or accelerating for the foreseeable future. That kind of multiple isn't for a stable business with predictable sales.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I buy real software companies?

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Like Patrick, I also sold my company through FEI (http://feinternational.com/) last Fall. Once we got all our information in place, the process went very quickly. We had several interested parties and due diligence calls almost immediately. After that, we had 3 offers. There were a few unexpected hiccups (I think there always are with acquisitions) but overall the process was very smooth and I'd use them again. I'd recommend registering with them and getting to know one of the brokers. They'll start sending you deals as they come in.

A few recommendations based on my experience (YMMV):

- Cash is king. While you should definitely structure the deal with a transition period, an all-cash offer carries more weight than a deal where you are financing some/all of the price. You'll need to show proof of funds too, so make sure you can do that easily.

- Get your attorney on standby. You'll probably need help with offer letters and purchase agreements. Plan on going through a couple rounds of revisions for both.

Feel free to email me if you have more questions.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I buy real software companies?

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post #8

I sold Bingo Card Creator through FEI ( http://feinternational.com ) and have nothing but good things to say about them. Something like 20% of their listings are SaaS businesses. The going rate for a SaaS business is roughly 3X yearly SDC ("seller discretionary cashflow" -- revenue minus costs required to run the business as opposed to e.g. the owner's salary, distributions, interest expense, etc). It is closer to 2X…

Off topic, but: I like your blog! Thanks!

Yeah, it's a most excellent blog. :)

Re: Ask HN: Where can I buy real software companies?

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Patrick's talk at Microconf on selling Bingo Card Creator was fascinating—nice set of notes at http://doubleyouraudience.com/microconf/patio11/

I'll write about this more in the near future -- don't want to step on a Starfighter announcement coming up though.

The talk wasn't recorded, was it?
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