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Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#11
Three things that have helped me.

1. A little bound paper notebook such as a Moleskine.

2. A mind mapping program -- I use FreePlane -- to store links, including links to files on my hard disk. An advantage is that I don't have to get the organization right on the first, second, or even third try.

3. A lot of the information in my life is not digitized, such as most of the sheet music in the world. So I now rely on my cell phone camera to record a lot of that stuff.

Amusingly, when I was in grad school, it was still considered to be an open question whether a person should get their own computer. The university computer store had a little guide, and the most memorable advice -- which certainly rings true in my life -- was: "Don't expect a computer to make you organized. If you have a messy desk, you will have a messy computer."

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#12
Still figuring this out - I have DevonThink to collect/catalog but I find that I don't often get in there to search, so that information basically rots. Same with my web bookmarks, many are several years old. As time goes on I find that information is basically useless unless I either internalize or act on it. So I tend to use information to adjust either my anki decks or my goal maps, and then I try to deliberately not save the rest... although that is still difficult since some of it is still just so tempting to flag by saying "gosh I will really want to refer this later after I do x, y, and z"...

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#13
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I wrote in this thread about using a Wiki I wrote: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8753599

Just started reading. Most of the items on your list of things to fix I was thinking about for quite some time. Besides the comments, maybe you could write a blog post about your system and experience with it? I for sure would be interested.

Do you think that solution to the whole personal knowledgebase problem should be solved from a single app perspective or is it better to think about this as a sort of ecosystem - one "module" for adding new things to the system, other for statistics[0], sync etc.? Also, did you consider semantic part of such system? So we can write programs that can make sense of all the things we have in the system?

[0] I was actually thinking about using machine learning to somehow finding the most important things in the wiki and suggesting tags/place in hierarchy of new entries

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#14
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badly, i have hundreds of bookmarks, articles, documents that i haven't looked at since adding them - not quite sure what i'm waiting for but i spend a lot more time collecting them then actually reading them

Yes, I think this is a common problem. We collect things, because they seem worth reading/watching but never return to them. One thing is that some effort is required to read/watch those things but other thing is that we forget that we even saw that particular article/video. So, maybe bookmarks should have a reminder mechanism built into them of some sort? Sombining Spaced Repetition with bookmarking seems interestin…

This is further fuelled by recalling something (e.g. an article you read), and not being able to find it again.

For example, a while ago I read an article that talked about peanut allergies being less prevalent/severe in Europe than the US, and Europe having more cases of other allergies (like apple allergies). It then went on to talk about different pollens that may react with our bodies to trigger certain allergies. I can't recall how long ago I came across this, or where (could have been HN, Slashdot, Digg, etc). I've also not been able to put together a search to turn up this article in Google. Had I been better about bookmarking, maybe I would be able to find this article even if it took a brute-force search through all of my bookmarks.

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#15
What I do is:

- For meetings, events, social obligations, I carry a small paper-based diary.

- For ideas and thoughts, I write them down. The idea is that the act of writing something down aids recall. For example, story and blog ideas go in a A5 notebook that I carry around with me, and I commit them to a digitally backed up document as soon as possible. Note-to-self lifestyle advice goes in my bedside drawer, to check on if I ever feel like I've forgotten anything.

- For things to learn and interesting articles, I don't do anything and keep my fingers crossed that the salient bits will have rubbed off on me, lurking in my subconscious and subtly improving my life forever after.

I'm not 100% sure that last one works quite that well.

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#16
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I mostly use Simplenote for ideas and loose notes, and Quip/Evernote for more structured notes. All three sync to all my devices, and while neither are perfect for my needs, they are OK. The problem comes from keeping everything organized (impossible with Evernote and Simplenote with their lack of structure, impossible with Quip since it's docs/spreadsheets-only) and in a way that works with my mind and workflow. I'm…

I've also been thinking about this problem a lot. On my phone now so I can't expand but I would also love to discuss this further with anyone. (Email in profile.)

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#17
1. Live simply. As I've gotten older I've found more and more value in not having too many things going on. Gradually I'm sleeping better, eating better, reducing stress, and getting more exercise, all of which is important for the next thing:

2. Memorize as much as I can. It's an exercise; I memorize phone numbers, schedules, people's names, trivia, all kinds of stuff. I've never found anything that matches the flexibility and utility of my own brain. I should use the best tool I have, and that's in my head. Technology is unreliable and constantly changing and difficult to organize and search. I've been practicing this for long enough that now I'm pretty good at it.

3. For everything else, I use a few simple systems: a few sheets of paper to the right side of my desk for scribbling and note-taking (meant to be discarded after a day or two), a pile of to-do to my left, a tab open in my text editor labeled "notepad" for longer-term stuff, and a well-organized directory of documents on my laptop with subfolders like "projects", "writing", "sysadmin", etc. -- I try to keep this directory as small as possible by dedicating time here and there to either finishing or pruning projects.

I disagree that keeping knowledge in your head isn't efficient. I think a lot of people just don't practice it enough. Smartphones and computers and everything else make it really easy to not bother. But, my brain is always with me, doesn't require batteries (well...), can store any type of information I want, and can instantly recall it without having to craft some kind of search query or organize the information in a rigorous way. It is exactly the kind of database storage we all wish we had. It never changes data formats, it never tries to get acquired by a bigger company and then shut down, and it gets reception everywhere I go. If my brain were an electronic tool, I would want to use it all the time. And, the more I use it, the better it works.

(edit: oh yeah, and pinboard. Looove pinboard.)

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#18
After trying a lot of software I returned at the end always to Evernote. I always missed good rich text and image support and easy web page saving in all other products. Evernote has a great web clipper (also works for Android with Everclip) which saves sooo much time and great IFTTT integration for interaction with other services. Especially having everything synced and editable on your phone is something the other solutions are missing.

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#19
1. A paper notebook. I don't often actually refer back to it, but just the process of sketching things out seems to make them stick. More importantly, once written down, my subconscious starts working on another idea.

2. Poor solution, but I email myself notes a lot. Usually from my phone, then I drop them into a folder in Outlook when I get back to my desk.

3. OneNote, for more long term collections. Microsoft did an amazing job with this product.

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#20
I have totally given up hope on classifying all the interesting things I find on the web each day, so I use an uncategorized save all strategy. I save all opened and downloaded files (mostly PDFs) to ~/Desktop/ and I also bookmark things there (by dragging the URL icon onto the desktop). After a few weeks the desktop becomes a complete mess, so I use a script[1] that puts files into subfolders (by extension), and then I put away this "complete week of research" archive and start from a clean slate (except for one or two active projects dirs).

It's a bit time-intensive to find things, but it's not impossible: let's just say the system is optimized for write efficiency and not read efficiency ;)

[1] https://gist.github.com/ivanistheone/9daa23ae2a7abb472cb2

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