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So, is it the DOM you don't like, or the actual JS syntax and structure? For me, when I overcame the weakness of the DOM API, and utilized it elegently, I started to enjoy JS.
One great thing about both Errai and GWT projects is that they're optimized for many browsers and the compiler abstracts away the differences between browsers (by compiling a version of the application for each).
What do you hate about it? My biggest transition to being comfortable with it was to find a happy place in terms of editing. After years of C/C++ it was not easy to be picking fragments of code out of DOM bellyfluff lint. So how do you use javascript dev tools and what don't you like about them I guess?
My golang program was complete in like 10min, but javascript program took 2 hrs. I dont know if its just me, but i tend to make small errors while programing, like making sure a variable is not undefined and stuff. Even though my logic was perfect its just very difficult to debug algorithms in javascript, let alone any lint for ide thats reliable.
the golang compiler is really good at catching errors, and makes programing more fun for me atleaset
There are any number of js frameworks which will probably abstract away most of the headaches you might have, and depending on what you're actually trying to accomplish, you may not need a lot of js at all. If you don't want to use client-side templating, for instance, and there's no reason to, then just skip it. Push as much of it to the backend in the language of your choice as you can.
But javascript, when you need scripting in the browser, is kind of unavoidable.
Also consider http://www.amazon.com/JavaScript-Good-Parts-Douglas-Crockfor... - your expectations from working with other languages may be getting in the way of your writing javascript properly and effectively.
(or do what a lot of other people do and work with a language that compiles to js and you can pretend you live in an alternate universe where you're not working with javascript even though you really are.)
You could try CoffeeScript. It takes away a lot of what people don't like about JavaScript out, and replaces it with a decent syntax. I personally love well written vanilla JavaScript, but CoffeeScript might give you a little better experience if you "hate" JS. So, is it the DOM you don't like, or the actual JS syntax and structure? For me, when I overcame the weakness of the DOM API, and utilized it elegently, I sta…
compare that to golang, even though u make errors, the compiler is so awesome at pointing those out. And u can get so much done
There are lots of languages nicer than JS that compile down to JS. That said, you don't need JS to make a webapp. You can do it strictly with server-side code and HTML.
i read about a project that converts llvm byte code to javascript, do any of u know about it
We all hate it but can't get away from it.
Gratuitous generalization, because you hate it, doesn't mean everybody hates JavaScript. The problem is that most people that hate JavaScript don't bother to properly learn the language because of the familiar syntax and they get burned by it :).