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Re: Ask HN: Are EMBA programs worth it?

#11
They don't just allow anybody to enroll. The majority of these programs have experience requirements. If you don't want to spend the time with "clueless" 20 somethings just out of college or with 2-3 yrs of experience, then that is valuable. The problem is that the workload is huge. You basically won't have a life for two years. Get up at 4, do homework, go to work, do homework at lunch or study, leave work at 6 or so, study, do homework, go to bed at midnight. Weekends? Forget them.

For most, you will need to take days off work, which hopefully your employer allows for (this is actually a requirement, so without this flexibility you won't be able to enroll).

Is it worth the time, money and sacrifice to you? - Traditional programs require you to quit your job, which is a cost of opportunity - The network is valuable - the learning is valuable - You could get a bigger salary. Could. Or could not.

So the math depends on you really.

Re: Ask HN: Are EMBA programs worth it?

#12
I worked in the admissions department for a top 20 MBA program for two years. I'd say that if you're going invest the money and time to get your MBA, you should get it from a high-ranking school. Name/brand recognition does matter. Plus, you want a degree you can be proud of.

EMBA programs are great but as talltofu said, the travel time and costs can be brutal. There are one or two MBA programs that are comparable to on- campus programs (in terms of quality and the degree you get when you graduate)- that would be my suggestion. Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Are EMBA programs worth it?

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post #10

Based on my own experience in EMBA program and then finally dropping out 2/3rd of the way. I also know several people who have gone to top-rated EMBA program and have good idea of their results before and after EMBA program. Goal ---- If you are interested in entrepreneurship/startup, EMBA is not worth a penny. You are better of taking the EMBA fee, spending some on buying a few book focused on starting a company and…

So why did you quit?

or better, why did you enroll?

Re: Ask HN: Are EMBA programs worth it?

#14

They are not particularly prestigious.

Some EMBA programs aren't trivial to get into... Especially ones like the Wharton EMBA or the Harvard EMBA.

Prestige aside, I think the value of the MBA (or the EMBA) still lies in the potential to network with other individuals who work in similar spaces as you do. This is probably one of the best / only reasons to do it.

Re: Ask HN: Are EMBA programs worth it?

#15
I started the Berkeley EWMBA (halfway through) and am bitterly regretting it (though work is fully comp-ing tuition for me). I'm going to stick it for another year and complete it. 1. It is a lot more work that you can imagine 2. You will have to learn a great deal of stuff that you know you will never use again. The benefits you get out of it are the networking and some basic business knowledge which you could get for a lot less if you are motivated. I'd say don't consider it unless you are getting some tuition reimbursement. Not worth the $125k-$175k otherwise.

Re: Ask HN: Are EMBA programs worth it?

#16

They are not particularly prestigious.

Some EMBA programs aren't trivial to get into... Especially ones like the Wharton EMBA or the Harvard EMBA. Prestige aside, I think the value of the MBA (or the EMBA) still lies in the potential to network with other individuals who work in similar spaces as you do. This is probably one of the best / only reasons to do it.

Can you give some examples of people who have EMBAs and are widely considered successful? Were they successful before the EMBA?

Re: Ask HN: Are EMBA programs worth it?

#17
post #10

Based on my own experience in EMBA program and then finally dropping out 2/3rd of the way. I also know several people who have gone to top-rated EMBA program and have good idea of their results before and after EMBA program. Goal ---- If you are interested in entrepreneurship/startup, EMBA is not worth a penny. You are better of taking the EMBA fee, spending some on buying a few book focused on starting a company and…

So why did you quit? or better, why did you enroll?

>Why did you enroll?

In hindsight, it was a mistake. I should have listened to one 'lone' dissent voice from a Wharton EMBA graduate who had said that I most probably be disappointed with the program if I am expecting to meet intellectually smart people, interested in learning, interested in startups/business growth and that program will impart any "significantly" new business knowledge or insights.

>Why did you quit?

Finally, I realized that by quitting, I can save enough money by not paying rest of the tuition and put it toward my business. Previously, I kept going because I kept getting convinced from classmates and other EMBA acquaintance that things will get better but by 2/3rd of the way I pretty much figured if things haven't improved by now they never will.

I believe I had mis-impression of what program will offer and how it may help my career and things I want to do. A better job by the programs of selling and poor judgement on my part to buy most things I heard.

Re: Ask HN: Are EMBA programs worth it?

#18

I started the Berkeley EWMBA (halfway through) and am bitterly regretting it (though work is fully comp-ing tuition for me). I'm going to stick it for another year and complete it. 1. It is a lot more work that you can imagine 2. You will have to learn a great deal of stuff that you know you will never use again. The benefits you get out of it are the networking and some basic business knowledge which you could get f…

The coursework isn't valuable, the imprimatur is. What is your opinion of the opportunities the degree will create?

Re: Ask HN: Are EMBA programs worth it?

#19
There are a lot of reasons to get an MBA - to the extent the intelligence of your fellow students matters, I thought I'd chime in with my observations. I've had the opportunity to interact with quite a few students from HBS, Wharton, Sloan, Stanford, and other reputable schools. My impression is that among the top 3 - HBS, Wharton, Stanford, 1/3rd of the students are would I would consider to be pretty intelligent. Another 1/3rd are okay in terms of intelligence, while another 1/3rd leave you wondering if they got in through massive donations from their parents. This ratio declines rapidly (away from intelligence) as you move down the rankings (as early as the #4 spot), at least from what I have observed.

Again, intelligence isn't everything, so I don't mean to say you should make your decision based on that. Just offering my observations in case they are at all helpful. Also, I should mention that this is all for the normal MBA programs - haven't had enough interaction with EMBA students to make a judgment.

Re: Ask HN: Are EMBA programs worth it?

#20

They are not particularly prestigious.

Some EMBA programs aren't trivial to get into... Especially ones like the Wharton EMBA or the Harvard EMBA. Prestige aside, I think the value of the MBA (or the EMBA) still lies in the potential to network with other individuals who work in similar spaces as you do. This is probably one of the best / only reasons to do it.

Harvard has an EMBA program? Must be a new program! A few years ago when I was researching, only top institution that didn't have EMBA program was Harvard and MIT just had launched their EMBA program.
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