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Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?

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It seems like you can give native advertising a try. I'm the cofounder of http://www.stackadapt.com and you can load our ad tag through ajax. You can also define ad formats using your site's HTML, so the ads are completely native and responsive to your site.

Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?

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The question isn't about using code in ads, but about including ads on content that is loaded with ajax.

There are probably technical (though not insurmountable) reasons for this, i.e. if the ads are content based Google has to be able to scrape the content to know which keywords to match.

Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?

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The world could really use a good competitor to Adsense, couldn't it? How about some ad network that is based on contextual technology such as Facebook, retargeting, etc.

(unfortunately) nobody cares about the desktop ad space anymore, "the future" is mobile

Hmm... I don't see ads on my Gmail mobile client. I see ads on Facebook mobile client or too small to notice (I do notice the "recommended posts" sometimes). Free iPhone apps come with "ads". I personally don't see how mobile ads are so effective as desktop.

Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(unfortunately) nobody cares about the desktop ad space anymore, "the future" is mobile

Hmm... I don't see ads on my Gmail mobile client. I see ads on Facebook mobile client or too small to notice (I do notice the "recommended posts" sometimes). Free iPhone apps come with "ads". I personally don't see how mobile ads are so effective as desktop.

Your mobile gmail client will show ads on the promotions tab. I agree that you might not see those.

Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?

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There is actually pretty good support, but you have to use AdSense through Google DFP - https://www.google.com/dfp/ . Things like creating ad slots dynamically / loading them later / refreshing them dynamically work fine when you use GPT tags in DFP.

Afaik AdSense still explicitly prohibits refreshing through JS, but this doesn't seem to apply when going through GPT. I'm not entirely sure what the situation here is.

Case in point: I have an AJAX site where users spend about 18 minutes per visit and refresh ads every two minutes. So far no complaints from Google.

Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?

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post #7

There is actually pretty good support, but you have to use AdSense through Google DFP - https://www.google.com/dfp/ . Things like creating ad slots dynamically / loading them later / refreshing them dynamically work fine when you use GPT tags in DFP.

Afaik AdSense still explicitly prohibits refreshing through JS, but this doesn't seem to apply when going through GPT. I'm not entirely sure what the situation here is. Case in point: I have an AJAX site where users spend about 18 minutes per visit and refresh ads every two minutes. So far no complaints from Google.

Interesting - is your site earning more than $1K a month? Just trying to gauge if you're big enough to get in their (human) crosshairs for more specific checks, or not.

Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(unfortunately) nobody cares about the desktop ad space anymore, "the future" is mobile

Hmm... I don't see ads on my Gmail mobile client. I see ads on Facebook mobile client or too small to notice (I do notice the "recommended posts" sometimes). Free iPhone apps come with "ads". I personally don't see how mobile ads are so effective as desktop.

People are saying the future of advertising is mobile, not because it presents a good platform for showing ads, but because increasingly that is how people are spending their time, so there is an expectation that advertising dollars will follow.

Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?

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post #7

There is actually pretty good support, but you have to use AdSense through Google DFP - https://www.google.com/dfp/ . Things like creating ad slots dynamically / loading them later / refreshing them dynamically work fine when you use GPT tags in DFP.

Afaik AdSense still explicitly prohibits refreshing through JS, but this doesn't seem to apply when going through GPT. I'm not entirely sure what the situation here is. Case in point: I have an AJAX site where users spend about 18 minutes per visit and refresh ads every two minutes. So far no complaints from Google.

Yes, their rules are a mess. However, as the OP mentions there was indeed an "AdSense for Ajax" beta several years ago, and refreshing ad slots was listed as its primary use case.

In my case, my site is structured as tabs. I refresh the ads when the user switches the active tab. A tab occupies about 95% of the page anyway.

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