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Re: Ask HN: What do you use for personal, offsite backup?

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I don't know if they allow that, but I was thinking of getting one of the advertised-as-unlimited-storage dreamhost account and using rsync to do my backups. Anyone using this already?

I don't know if dreamhost has done this recently, but I've heard many stories of people having their accounts closed due to "using storage for a purpose other than web hosting".

Re: Ask HN: What do you use for personal, offsite backup?

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I use tarsnap. (Also, I wrote tarsnap.) I feel bad about advertising my product here, so I'll stop there and let other HN readers tell you how fantastic tarsnap is. :-)

I'm a user of tarsnap.

I have no idea of whether it's fantastic. I can see a list of times when I've run ./tarsnap.sh, but I have no idea if it's really encrypting the backup, and I have no idea if it's making a backup in the first place. I mean, I haven't had any hard drive failures and I haven't inspected the client source code. (As far as I can tell, the product is great.)

And I can't remember where offsite I've put my keyfile, notwithstanding for the microprinted uuencoding I have stored in my ear.

> My one requirement is that I be the only one that is able to decrypt my files.

Tarsnap lets you download, inspect, and compile the source code yourself, and nothing unencrypted goes off your machine, so it's sufficient if you value paranoia. But I have not comparison-shopped.

Re: Ask HN: What do you use for personal, offsite backup?

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I wish I had a good solution. I try to upload all photos to a Flickr pro account but that's not a true backup.

I periodically mirror files from home to a portable drive that I take to the office and dump onto a (Truecrypt encrypted) drive on a machine at work. That's my main backup system right now.

I also use a free Dropbox account for smaller files.

Re: Ask HN: What do you use for personal, offsite backup?

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I use tarsnap. (Also, I wrote tarsnap.) I feel bad about advertising my product here, so I'll stop there and let other HN readers tell you how fantastic tarsnap is. :-)

I'm a user of tarsnap. I have no idea of whether it's fantastic. I can see a list of times when I've run ./tarsnap.sh, but I have no idea if it's really encrypting the backup, and I have no idea if it's making a backup in the first place. I mean, I haven't had any hard drive failures and I haven't inspected the client source code. (As far as I can tell, the product is great.) And I can't remember where offsite I've p…

Losing the keyfile is a real concern for me as well, and makes me prefer less secure options like Dropbox or Ubuntu One. What do others do about this?

Re: Ask HN: What do you use for personal, offsite backup?

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post #10

I don't know if they allow that, but I was thinking of getting one of the advertised-as-unlimited-storage dreamhost account and using rsync to do my backups. Anyone using this already?

I don't know if dreamhost has done this recently, but I've heard many stories of people having their accounts closed due to "using storage for a purpose other than web hosting".

Yes, it is against their terms of service and I'm sure they enforce it. They now market their storage as "Unlimited + xGB" where the x GB is the amount of space you're allowed to use as personal backup space (currently 50GB).

http://www.dreamhost.com/unlimited.html

Re: Ask HN: What do you use for personal, offsite backup?

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post #10

I don't know if they allow that, but I was thinking of getting one of the advertised-as-unlimited-storage dreamhost account and using rsync to do my backups. Anyone using this already?

Dreamhost now has special "backup accounts" and seem to automatically patrol accounts for "abuse" outside of this provisioned space. They give 50gb for free, and then charge 10 cents/gb/mo beyond that.

It's not bad but a far cry from "unlimited." Still, it seems to work fine for rsyncing "small" backups.

Re: Ask HN: What do you use for personal, offsite backup?

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I use tarsnap. (Also, I wrote tarsnap.) I feel bad about advertising my product here, so I'll stop there and let other HN readers tell you how fantastic tarsnap is. :-)

I'm a user of tarsnap. I have no idea of whether it's fantastic. I can see a list of times when I've run ./tarsnap.sh, but I have no idea if it's really encrypting the backup, and I have no idea if it's making a backup in the first place. I mean, I haven't had any hard drive failures and I haven't inspected the client source code. (As far as I can tell, the product is great.) And I can't remember where offsite I've p…

I have no idea if it's really encrypting the backup

Unless you look at source code, you'll never know if a backup service is encrypting your backups or not. At least with tarsnap you have the option of reading the source code to verify that tarsnap does what I say it does. :-)

... and I have no idea if it's making a backup in the first place.

tarsnap --list-archives, tarsnap -t, and tarsnap -x are your friends. The ultimate test of whether a backup was created -- for any backup system -- is "can I get my data back".

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