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Re: Ask HN: How much?

#11

Just for the sake of giving us more information, would you be willing to compare your RoR app with a website I made a while ago. I got paid $500 to make http://www.solafcars.com (works in multiple languages, includes an admin panel, everything on the site is editable). I would assume your RoR app was much bigger, but let us know how it compares. I know I got underpaid though.

Did this take more than 3 hours to make? Did you provide any post-implementation support at all? If either are true, you wildly underbid.

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post #3

assuming that your .net and RoR app took less than a year to finish and you're not killing yourself with the hours (around 40/wk), it sounds like you're doing fine.

A freelancer's wage is different from a salaryman's wage - health insurance dollars and the "self-employment tax" are two sizable bites to take into consideration.

Re: Ask HN: How much?

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Just for the sake of giving us more information, would you be willing to compare your RoR app with a website I made a while ago. I got paid $500 to make http://www.solafcars.com (works in multiple languages, includes an admin panel, everything on the site is editable). I would assume your RoR app was much bigger, but let us know how it compares. I know I got underpaid though.

It seems to me that you got seriously shafted on that deal. I don't think that the app I made was much more complex, i.e. I probably maybe spent 10x as much time as you did on that one, but I made 200x more money doing it. The pricing of these things seems to be very subjective to me, and contingent on numerous factors including: How much they've actually got to pay for it? How much they think they can get away with? How much they think someone else would bill them for it? How much their friends tell them it should cost? What is the actual application? How much incremental money do they stand to make as a result of its existence? And very little with how much time/effort actually goes into it on your part. Ofhand, you could have easily made at least $5k on that site. And if it was for a more general purpose, i.e. as opposed to just one dealership, you could have made much more.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was not saying that you should charger per hour. I was asking that the numbers you floated will make more sense if you can provide how much time you spent on each of those projects. For example: you mentioned $100k on RoR project. This number will make more sense if you mention whether it took you 1000 hours or 10000 hours or maybe 3 months or 3 years.

Oh, I see what you mean. It probably took about 1000 hours total, but spanned over a period of a year. So maybe 20 hours per week. I was just learning Rails at the time, so it took a bit longer than it otherwise would have. I could probably make what I made in about 1 to 2 months tops now.

100000$ for two months work seems like a good price.

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post #9
post #3

assuming that your .net and RoR app took less than a year to finish and you're not killing yourself with the hours (around 40/wk), it sounds like you're doing fine.

150,000/yr (~75/hr) is low.

low/high is very subjective. depends on a lot of stuff.

Re: Ask HN: How much?

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post #11

Just for the sake of giving us more information, would you be willing to compare your RoR app with a website I made a while ago. I got paid $500 to make http://www.solafcars.com (works in multiple languages, includes an admin panel, everything on the site is editable). I would assume your RoR app was much bigger, but let us know how it compares. I know I got underpaid though.

Did this take more than 3 hours to make? Did you provide any post-implementation support at all? If either are true, you wildly underbid.

It definitely took more than 3 hours, I'm not superman lol. Everything was made from scratch. The admin panel took most of my time. Keep in mind I also made the design, registered the domain name and set up the hosting. Support was also provided, we got together so I could explain how he could manage the website on his own. It was my first real freelance project though, so I let him choose the price.

Re: Ask HN: How much?

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did this take more than 3 hours to make? Did you provide any post-implementation support at all? If either are true, you wildly underbid.

It definitely took more than 3 hours, I'm not superman lol. Everything was made from scratch. The admin panel took most of my time. Keep in mind I also made the design, registered the domain name and set up the hosting. Support was also provided, we got together so I could explain how he could manage the website on his own. It was my first real freelance project though, so I let him choose the price.

Your pricing may be off by as many as two orders of magnitude.

Re: Ask HN: How much?

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post #12
post #3

assuming that your .net and RoR app took less than a year to finish and you're not killing yourself with the hours (around 40/wk), it sounds like you're doing fine.

A freelancer's wage is different from a salaryman's wage - health insurance dollars and the "self-employment tax" are two sizable bites to take into consideration.

Both of those "bites" are true, but what the market is compensating you for is risk, not overhead.
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