Ask HN: How do I get motivated again • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: How do I get motivated again

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Post by nutela » Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 4:25 PM UTC

You have two options; say what you like and what don't, get to know yourself, what you really want, talk about it. Say you are a real engineer not a code monkey. You want to build something great, not fool around. Tell them they're wasting just time by not being organised.

The second option is to still find what you really really want and find it, and quit.

Being in resistance is just wasting time sorry :-) Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: How do I get motivated again

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Post by hashtree » Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 5:00 PM UTC

Besides what everyone else has already mentioned, I find great computer science presentations and story/interview based computer science-ish books to be great motivators.

Book examples: In the Plex, Masters of Doom, Steve Jobs, Founders at Work, Coders at Work

Re: Ask HN: How do I get motivated again

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Post by brothe2000 » Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 5:52 PM UTC

I've worked with entrepreneurs like this and they would change their mind on features and functionality week to week. Entrepreneurs are constantly testing new ideas and features to understand what will work.

I compared it to walking a dog. The dog runs around side to side front to back sniffing everything but at the end of the day, the dog is still tied to you and you to it.

If possible get more involved in the actual business and start to build in flexibility and anticipate future enhancements based on the business goals.

If you don't get a say in the business and have no path to equity, leave.

Re: Ask HN: How do I get motivated again

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Post by sherm8n » Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 8:25 PM UTC

Man, I've been in your exact position before. It sucks. That's just an understatement. I hated it. When all you're holding on to is the comfort of money then I'd say it's over. My suggestion is to be open and honest with your client. Maybe they know you feel that way too. Since you're the only developer they know they need you. But I think if you both enter a conversation on how to improve the situation, you'll both be happier in the long term.

The best thing that has worked for me when I'm just spinning my wheels is to travel. Enjoy life and appreciate what it has to offer. Changing up your routine will allow your mind to do that. Think hard about what you want to do and live your life now. It's short.

Re: Ask HN: How do I get motivated again

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Post by dexxter » Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 10:11 PM UTC

Take some time off - maybe just a week (if you cannot get more). When you get back if you still feel the same about work, it means that its time to move on - maybe to a different job or maybe a different industry.

It's hard to do especially if you have bills to pay. But you are going to have to take that step and make an effort to move on. Work becomes very difficult once you start resenting it.

Re: Ask HN: How do I get motivated again

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Post by phildupre » Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 10:57 PM UTC

It's definitely a challenge to work with founders who are what seems to be trying to figure things out as they go, which results into creative chaos at best or disorganized, aimless destruction at worst. Before concluding that this gig isn't for you, at the very least, make sure you maintain your own standards of quality and responsibility to do the best you can do. Try to be flexible and work with them. Sell them on your ideas as best as you can when you disagree with their always changing ones. But if they disagree, I strongly advise to be flexible and don't let the chaos shake you from your own high standards of professionalism to do the best you can. I'm old school, but I feel you still owe that much to them since this is a contract you agreed to take on. Who knows? If you show you're working hard, your client will begin to trust you more and more when you have a different opinion than theirs. Either way, if things don't improve, you can walk at the end of the contract, but with the integrity that you did your best.

Re: Ask HN: How do I get motivated again

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 2:39 AM UTC

desouzt wrote: post #9

I run a website which aims to motivate/inspire people daily by showing simple inspiring quotes and videos each day. If you're after that type of reboot - something that will just give you a brief lift, then check it out. I won't post it's name as i don't want to spam - you can see it in my profile. Thanks

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Re: Ask HN: How do I get motivated again

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Post by vincie » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 3:26 AM UTC

Damn! This sounds just like my situation! It is fairly chaotic here, no specifications or documentation for work I must do, and no one understands what I do. So I use this to my advantage by learning new skills. Because no one asks me what tools I use (they all think I use C#, I think), I find tools that interest me and learn them by using them in my work. So far I have learned R and Pandas for data, although I am lucky to get a 10M file to use. I have built a desktop app with Ada. I am trying to created LaTeX files from a script. I want to improve my Racket/F#/GIMP/Scribus/Inkscape/Blender/Node.js skills and knowledge, but cannot yet come up with appropriate tasks. But I keep looking! So basically I keep motivated by learning new stuff all the time at their expense.

Re: Ask HN: How do I get motivated again

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Post by n008 » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 9:59 AM UTC

ma2rten wrote: post #6

Sounds like the advise is obvious: Change jobs! "Vertical advertising for sports betting" sounds like the definition of useless to society. The management issues don't make things better. No pay is worth working at a job like that. That being said, if changing jobs is not an option in the near future, here are some tips: 1. Take pride in what you do. Try to write the most beautiful code. Learn new technologies. Make…

Thanks, I find the points above helpful. I have taken days off and already working on this. Hopefully, things should get better.

Re: Ask HN: How do I get motivated again

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Post by n008 » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 10:04 AM UTC

Leander_B wrote: post #8

ma2rten wrote: post #6

Sounds like the advise is obvious: Change jobs! "Vertical advertising for sports betting" sounds like the definition of useless to society. The management issues don't make things better. No pay is worth working at a job like that. That being said, if changing jobs is not an option in the near future, here are some tips: 1. Take pride in what you do. Try to write the most beautiful code. Learn new technologies. Make…

>> "Vertical advertising for sports betting" sounds like the definition of useless to society. I work in the same 'industry' and equally dislike it as a whole and also completely lost my motivation. >> No pay is worth working at a job like that. Not when you have a family to raise or bills to pay, the thing with this betting industry is that it pays as said relatively to very good. There is also an overload of jobs,…

On side projects, the problem is, I have always been passionate about whatever I am work on and have no energy left for side projects. I guess I should just 'grind things out' as you mentioned, and perhaps focus energy on things I care most about, but won't this hamper on productivity?

I am based in London.