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Ask HN: I can't stand PHP anymore. What else can I choose?

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Re: Ask HN: I can't stand PHP anymore. What else can I choose?

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Dreamhost is cheap and has shell, perl, ruby, and php.

Yes i tried them. That's why i mentioned "_reliable_ webhost" ;) . But yes, some websites could be hosted with them, it's just not good enough when we need something to be 100% uptime.

Re: Ask HN: I can't stand PHP anymore. What else can I choose?

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post #10

You might want to have a look at haXe - a language that compiles to multiple backends including PHP, Javascript and Flash. It's not my favorite language by a long shot, but it's not PHP.

I think that it's Exactly what i was looking for! Thanks a lot. I will definitely look at it! :)

Re: Ask HN: I can't stand PHP anymore. What else can I choose?

#14
Look for webfaction as a hosting provider. It's cheap and you have lots more options than just PHP. Plus you get shell access. You can even set up your own apache instance.

Other than that, don't worry too much about the language. Find something you like and stick to it. Just remember to always learn new things and don't get set in your ways.

Re: Ask HN: I can't stand PHP anymore. What else can I choose?

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post #8

Is Ruby hosting that expensive? I've seen hosters that do it under five bucks a month (like http://www.hostingrails.com/ ).

Thanks for the info. I did not know about hostingrails.

http://www.bluehost.com

I personally use it for PHP, but it supports Ruby/RoR, it's cheap, and I've never had any problems with it.

Re: Ask HN: I can't stand PHP anymore. What else can I choose?

#16

Dreamhost is cheap and has shell, perl, ruby, and php.

Yes i tried them. That's why i mentioned "_reliable_ webhost" ;) . But yes, some websites could be hosted with them, it's just not good enough when we need something to be 100% uptime.

Plus, using things other than PHP is still pretty difficult with dreamhost.

Re: Ask HN: I can't stand PHP anymore. What else can I choose?

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post #4

I don't know whether you'd need shell access for Python (I'm only just starting to learn it myself) but that could be an idea to consider.

Using Python would have the same problems as using Perl, wouldn't it?

Not necessarily. You just need to put whatever libraries somewhere on your python path.

Re: Ask HN: I can't stand PHP anymore. What else can I choose?

#18
perl:

You do not need shell access to install modules locally. Anything you can do from the shell, you can do from Perl with system(), backticks, or piped open(), but really... no shell access?

You want hosting that is reliable, supports shell access, rails, and 100% uptime, but your not willing to pay more than $5/month ?

Re: Ask HN: I can't stand PHP anymore. What else can I choose?

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post #18

perl: You do not need shell access to install modules locally. Anything you can do from the shell, you can do from Perl with system(), backticks, or piped open(), but really... no shell access? You want hosting that is reliable, supports shell access, rails, and 100% uptime, but your not willing to pay more than $5/month ?

i completely get your point. unfortunately i dont choose my webhosts. my clients does. but when i can, i tell them to take a linode slice.

Re: Ask HN: I can't stand PHP anymore. What else can I choose?

#20
"What do you do when you can't stand PHP anymore?"

Reevaluate what's really important to you.

I love to program, but it's NEVER about the language. I know many of them, and AFAIC they all have their pros and cons. I suppose that if I was a "language-snob", I'd be "immensely bored" too, no matter which language I was using.

So if it's not about the language, then what is it about? You already answered your own question with the first 3 words of your post.

It's about your clients. Always. They have needs far beyond their ability to express them. And they need you.

Stop being a "language-snob" and start being a "solutions-snob". You'll never be bored again. Promise.

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