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Ask HN: Why is it so hard finding a Freelancer?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is it so hard finding a Freelancer?

#12
There are a ton of reasons for which someone might not respond to unsolicited quotes, and I'll do my best to explain. Without seeing the specific email you sent, it's all guesswork though.

1) Freelancers are generally busy right now, and it's hard to keep up with potential customers that may or may not work out when you're already bouncing time between two or three active, paying customers that are a known-good quantity. This leads into,

2) Lots of freelancers aren't set up to be agencies. The main difference between a freelancer and an agency is that an agency has someone following up on potential work while there is someone different actually doing the work. For non-agencies, this means that every customer I'm ironing out terms with or trying to get a sale from is time away from paying customers and real money in lieu of potential money. Obviously, it costs a lot more to work with an agency because now you are paying for at least two people, and also paying for the time that gets wasted, but it is generally the more reliable way to go if you can afford it.

3) If you mention a specific toolset (e.g., Rails, Django) in your message, it might be that the folks you're sending to either aren't familiar with that toolset, or they don't think it's appropriate for the task, or in some cases, I've seen people simply avoid working with customers that asked for a specific toolset. The logic there is that people who ask for things like Rails, but that aren't competent to build the thing themselves, often don't know what they're asking for and that could be in indicator of a difficult client. Obviously this may not be the case, you may simply have another codebase that it needs to work with, or y'know, any of a hundred different reasons that you actually need something written in Rails, but that is the perception I've sometimes seen.

Obviously if I don't know your toolset, I can't help you. I've worked with a lot of customers on a lot of different technologies. I could build something in Django, Flask, or pretty much any Python Framework, Node, Express, or pretty much any new JS frameworks, etc., Java, .Net, but if you ask for Rails, I'd have to (at the least) tell you that I don't have any recent experience in it, and I don't really love it. The better freelancers will at least try to refer you to someone else they know, but many of them might just as quickly assume that there are a million Rails freelancers out there, and you're likely to find one with the very next email.

All this, and I haven't even mentioned budget yet. People have their preferred budget ranges. Some guys like small projects, some guys prefer 3-6 month projects, etc. If you specifically mention budget, it might easily be that your budget thoughts are too small for the work at hand.

Anyway, hope this helps.

Re: Ask HN: Why is it so hard finding a Freelancer?

#15
I will append to most of the comments here. Describe what you want (describe as many details as you can without writing a book (ex. basic description, technology that will be used and a time frame of when you need it by.) Letting the freelancer know that the a budget has been approved will also help. Many times I've gone through the time and effort of quoting a project only to find out that it was in exploratory means of deciding how much it might cost. Include contact information and best time to call if they have questions.

Then tell the freelancer you are accepting quotes until a certain date and you will make a decision shortly afterwards. I can do the same if you send me the above information. I can take a look at your project and see if I can help you.

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Re: Ask HN: Why is it so hard finding a Freelancer?

#16
It may be that your idea is not feasible - I commonly get requests for ideas that are just not worth investing time and effort in.

Cost is another factor - what is your budget, have you made that clear in your emails?

How are you locating these people?

12 people isn't that many, keep trying and hopefully this thread will get you the right person.

Re: Ask HN: Why is it so hard finding a Freelancer?

#18

Because most good programmers regularly hear from people who want them to work for free on an idea someone has...with the chance that they will get paid well once the idea succeeds. Ideas are easy and we all have them; executing them well is very hard.

Yeah, I get that. I do. In all of my emails I ask for a rough ballpark quote or an estimate of how many hours. I realize how hard it is to do this sometimes, but you have to start somewhere.

Wild speculation: if you're at the "ballpark" stage, you probably have a very vague feature list / overall plan... I suspect if you tighten up the description and scope you'll have more luck (although given how many offers for quotes you just got, perhaps a better method is to just post on YC ;)

Re: Ask HN: Why is it so hard finding a Freelancer?

#20
I don't know if this is the case with you, but most of the time when someone pitches me (a developer) an idea, they have not thought it through. And I'm not talking technologically or how to program it, or what computer language/framework to use. I'm talking much more basic. I mean they haven't thought through what will happen when people click various things. They haven't thought through the basics of what information will be presented and in what basic way and what might happen in various circumstances.

Such people are generally unaware of how much they haven't thought through. They are super excited about a kernel of an idea without any of the details worked out.

I highly suggest getting a pencil and bunch of paper and sketching pictures of what the main pages would look like. For every link or button you draw, you should have something somewhere physically drawn that represents what happens when it is clicked. You will likely be tempted in some cases to take a shortcut and just write a note that starts "Basically...", or "Kind of like..." Don't do that. Come up with specific (if not permanent or polished) pictures for everything.

The point is not to produce a prototype, but to uncover what you don't know about your own idea. If you are like most people (even me) you will find there are huge swaths of questions you hadn't even considered yet.

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