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Ask HN: Mullvad Alternatives?

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Re: Ask HN: Mullvad Alternatives?

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I took the advice of the other Mullvad founder in the other thread here on HN and signed up for IVPN. So far I have to say I am really impressed. Clients are all open source, really configurable, and speed and reliability seems as good as Mullvad. Will I find out tomorrow that their founder is also a fascist? Hopefully not.

What makes Berntsson a fascist? What makes the Örebro Party fascist?

(I am a Mullvad user, but I am not Swedish, or familiar with Swedish politics, so I only have Wikipedia to go from.)

Re: Ask HN: Mullvad Alternatives?

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post #4

I'm happy with proton vpn.

The OP is likely posting this due to this post about one of Mullvad’s CEOs supporting a right-leaning political party, rather than anything to do with Mullvad’s quality of service. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48717469 Proton’s CEO has done the same thing. https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-tru... I’m sure if they look into any company suggested, they will find someone involved who has d…

Yes, although I don't think this effort is futile as you seem to be implying.

A more interesting question is how much effort we're willing to put into making those choices. My answer was posting here and doing a bit of research. Maybe I'll stick with Mullvad for the time being, maybe I won't and I'll help a few people make the same choice. It's better than shrugging and being defeatist, cynicism is cheap.

(Adobe subs weren't https://untested.sonnet.io/notes/alternatives-to-adobe/)

Re: Ask HN: Mullvad Alternatives?

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post #4

I'm happy with proton vpn.

The OP is likely posting this due to this post about one of Mullvad’s CEOs supporting a right-leaning political party, rather than anything to do with Mullvad’s quality of service. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48717469 Proton’s CEO has done the same thing. https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-tru... I’m sure if they look into any company suggested, they will find someone involved who has d…

You're purposely minimizing the Mullvad CEO's actions by making an incongruent comparison.

Proton CEO made some vaguely pro-Republican (U.S) comments one time.

Mullvad CEO is the primary donor to a European political party that supports "re-migration"; a far right policy ideal that is literally about sending migrants back to where they came from.

Re: Ask HN: Mullvad Alternatives?

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post #11
post #9

I took the advice of the other Mullvad founder in the other thread here on HN and signed up for IVPN. So far I have to say I am really impressed. Clients are all open source, really configurable, and speed and reliability seems as good as Mullvad. Will I find out tomorrow that their founder is also a fascist? Hopefully not.

What makes Berntsson a fascist? What makes the Örebro Party fascist? (I am a Mullvad user, but I am not Swedish, or familiar with Swedish politics, so I only have Wikipedia to go from.)

Mullvad CEO is the primary donor to a European political party that supports "re-migration"; a far right policy ideal that is literally about sending migrants back to where they came from.

Re: Ask HN: Mullvad Alternatives?

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OP is likely posting this due to this post about one of Mullvad’s CEOs supporting a right-leaning political party, rather than anything to do with Mullvad’s quality of service. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48717469 Proton’s CEO has done the same thing. https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-tru... I’m sure if they look into any company suggested, they will find someone involved who has d…

You're purposely minimizing the Mullvad CEO's actions by making an incongruent comparison. Proton CEO made some vaguely pro-Republican (U.S) comments one time. Mullvad CEO is the primary donor to a European political party that supports "re-migration"; a far right policy ideal that is literally about sending migrants back to where they came from.

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